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another presidential candidate, next week: Senator Edwards

I've been an admirer of Senator Edwards for sometime now. Next week, he'll be guest blogging here. I know he has a number of issues he wants to discuss, and in the comments here, feel free to suggest others. But I'm honored to welcome him. As I've written, there is an integrity and passion to Senator Edwards in person. This campaign could use more of that.

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Comments (35)

I have to ask: why? I'm from NC, and he has made at best a questionable senator. He's missed votes like they were free. His staff has flat out lied to my wife about his voting. I've never received a response back from any contact with his office, so I just gave up on him. His positions seem to be mostly "republican lite." For the past two years, I've been represented by just one senator, and her name is Dole. I resent it - can you tell?

You are saying the only Senator who represents you is Elizabeth Dole, but in the same breath complaining that Edwards is "Republican lite."

Edwards, like every other Presidential candidate, has missed votes in the Senate during the campaign trail and he is very upfront about this. Furthermore, his voting record is public information.

Senator Edwards has fought for working people all his life. He was elected by a majority of voters from North Carolina and most are proud of the work he has done, including his work on the Patient's Bill of Rights. He is winning South Carolina with a great margain, moving up in Iowa and is in 3rd place in New Hampshire. Senator Edwards' campaign is successful for one simple reason: people know he will work hard for them every single day.

Hmmm... I would ask this of Sen. Edwards. "I have heard you are a gifted trial lawyer who can get juries of average people to understand the importance of complex or abstract subjects. Many of us here care about issues relating to the media, intellectual property, civil liberties, and the impact of pervasive technology on people's lives. As a President who champions the working-class citizen, how would you convince him that issues around culture and the freedom of ideas still matter - when he's more likely to be concerned with jobs, health care and war?"

October 30, 2003 10:46 AM Matthew Saroff:

In the interest of disclosure, I'm a Dean man.

That being said, I like Edwards, he's a good speaker, and a very good debater, and a strong candidate.

If he gets the nomination, I'd vote for him, but then agan, I'd vote for Pat Buchanon against Bush, and I'm a Jewish Zionist.

What bothers me about him (and something about all the candidates, including Dean, bother me) is that I get the sense that politically, he's a dillitant.

From what I've read, I'm not alone, so I'd like to see him address it when he guest blogs.

Most people in NC like the fact that the Senator is running for President and they will support him. There are a few who fall for the tricks of the conservative agenda in the south by trying to portray Edwards's campaign as withering away and him being an awol, irresponsible Senator.

IF BUSH AIN'T AWOL, THEN NO ONE IS AWOL, and unlike Edwards, Bush is responsible to North Carolina and the rest of the country, but these people think it's okay for Bush to campaign while he runs this country into the ground, but it's not okay for Edwards to campaign, and miss votes that don't mean anything? Everything that they vote on in the Senate is not...EARTHSHATTERING! Some of it is just to name a stupid park in Utah or the equivalent, things that North Carolinians could care less about. If he is going to vote yes and he has already received word that the yes vote will be...SQUASHED...overwhelmingly, why would he show up when he could be doing better things with his time? Because it's his job.

VOTING IS NOT THE MOST IMPORTANT ROLE THAT SENATORS PLAY FOR THEIR STATE. Just because he misses a vote doesn't meant that he is neglecting North Carolina.

I'm sure the person from Lexington, NC who posted this on the Edwards blog disagrees with what Bruce Watson said about Edwards. Obviously, plenty of people have opinions, but I like this person's better:

Sen. John Edwards and his job as a Senator from NC
( This is a reply message to this page's main story )

(Anonymous) at Friday October 10, @08:06PM

As a person who has seen that Sen. John Edwards is dedicated to moving America forward, long before he decided to run for President; I needed his help with Social Security. I had been unable to work for 10 years due to mulitple disabilities. Several Doctors had suggested that I could not medically continue to work as a teacher in N.C., and suggested I seek SSI. After being turned down for 5 years my former Superintendent contacted Sen. Edwards office. I was about to lose everything I owned in this world, my self esteem and hope was gone. I was ready to give up. Sen. Edward's contacted me via letter, and phone and directed his staff to help me get through the SSI maze. He and his staff "saved my life" and my dignity. They followed my case and even helped me get the correct paper work to file for SSI. When Sen. Edwards says he cares about the regular working class people he is sincere. The people in N.C. will miss him but our loss will be a great step forward for America. He is an advocate for real people who need real leadership. Our country is now in need of a real person to solve real problems. We need Sen. Edwards in Washington, as our president.

Sincerely
John Evers, Lexington, N.C.

What is a dillitant?

That word doesn't even exist based on Dictionary.com...

Dilettante
A dabbler in an art or a field of knowledge.

Well, if he would have poste..."Dilettante"...then I could have figured out what he was talking about, but he didn't. He posted..."dillitant."

October 30, 2003 8:01 PM Matthew Saroff:

I are an engineer. Just be glad that I can write at all.

I read somewhere (Kevin Phillips perhaps) that the Bush I administration was very committed to making certain industries wealthy (oil being the obvious one, but also finance and insurance, if I remember correctly), partly because of where he came from, and how he got financed, but largely because they were entrenched in his whole geo-political scheme, which that family (including Prescott Bush) has spent at least two life-times developing (and now, a third – W’s).

I believe Phillips says that Bush I ignored the emerging high-tech industry because it didn’t fit into his scheme and his regional politics, and it challenged the hegemony of the industries he favored. Phillips says that Ross Perot got involved in the ‘92 race because he was tired of Republicans ignoring his industry’s needs. I think Phillips also says that Clinton was embraced by the hi-tech industry because he was committed to the idea that people and small businesses, and businesses trying to move the economy forward (rather than backward, like the auto-industry, which is based on the internal-combustion engine, which is a century-old technology!) deserve the government’s support.

And, incidentally, my impression is that the hi-tech industry has some inherently liberalizing tendencies. One, is that it tends to spread a lot of wealth very broadly. Once you take out the Wall St-IPO-401(k) ripoff angle (the Republicans find a way to make easy money off EVERYTHING!) you’re still left with an industry which rewards ideas that can be manifested without the need for a ton of capitalization. So, a group of immigrant Cal or Stanford graduates, or any group of Americans willing to work hard, can turn an idea into profits without having to go to Andover, or without having to have your dad, GHWB get members of the bin Laden family to invest a couple grand in your dumb, lazy son’s soon-to-fail oil business. To me, hi-tech, more than the auto industry, or oil business, or finance business, embodies progress, through, for example, price-competition, the drive for innovation, and the desire to bring value to the lives of consumers. Therefore, it seems to me that it should find a natural home in the Democratic party.

So, I was just wondering if Edwards could comment on how the tech-industry sits in terms of being Democratic-leaning or Republican leaning. I’m just wondering if the situation Phillips described as existing in ’92 still prevails today, or if things have changed, and if the tech-industry is now more about finance tricks and less about innovation and competition and bringing value to the public. After all, once the oil industry was a strong supporter of Democrats because they needed to get over the hump of the protectionism the Republicans were providing for the industries that dominated the economy before the oil industry dominated the economy.

I am from Raleigh NC and realize that with Edwards on the campaign trail he would not be voting as much on Senate issues. I think it is important to point out that Senator Edwards staff continues to remain diligent on the central issues affecting our state nad the rest of the country. As was stated if the Senator's vote will not be crucial or if he has been able to pair his vote on an issue that is what he's done. I would like to point out that during the Senate debate on hte Iraqi reconstruction both Senator's Edwards and Kerry could be seen sitting next to each other during the debate on loans vs. grants.

The democratic party is hurting from too many candidates participating in the process. The party should pressure certain candidates to step aside. I feel that Edwards is one of the front runners, however, currently he trails even Sharpton on a national basis.

Can you ask Senator Edwards to discuss his views on the future for people in the 20-36 age group the so called Gen X,Y. Especially if he would comment on his plans for affirmative action and race relations. As a young caucasian I am aware that we are entering a time where many will not remember or understand the significance of an Emmitt Tills and the progress on civil rights that had been systematically blocked by the southern Senators during the 1st half of the 20th century. What has been the effect of time on the African American population who does not have direct or even indirect knowledge of the true nature of the fight for civil rights (poll tax, lynching, brown etc)? Also, are we now seeing the discrimination (albeit to a lesser extent) against gays and Latino's. It is almost impossible now to appreciate how Emmitt Tills could happen in the US but in 40 years will future generations scratch their heads on today's views of same sex marriage and parenting. Any comments?

I am also another "Gomer" from North Carolina.... the guy got elected Senator... and didn't do a thing for the interest of NC... but just used the office as a springboard to Presindial run. And like Al Gore, he'd lose his home state if he ran for president... but nobody ever asks the folks back home what we think of the guy. Two faced politico... with a wide smile... who voted to NOT FUND rebuilding of Iraq. Lame, weak and not the guy.

For the record, candidate Kucinich has not missed a vote.

As an Iowa resident, I see Mr. Edwards' face on television quite a lot. I am very turned off by his calculating commercials, which seem designed to emphasize his "humble beginnings" and working-class roots ("my grampaw was a sharecropper," etc.). Does he really think we are such yokels as to think that him putting on a plaid shirt makes him "just a slob like one of us?" It's insulting.

Another Dean supporter here, glad to see Edwards get his "day on the Lessig blog". Edwards brings an echo of Clinton's charisma and presence, that down-home Southern charm that is so seductive. I regard Clinton as the best president of the last 40 years, regardless of his personal foibles. Edwards has that same "slickness" Clinton had from what I've seen of him, but does he have the same policy instincts? All the Democratic candidates have fairly similar official platforms when it comes to the "major issues"; but what about issues that aren't on those platforms, where will Edwards tend to fall on those? Best example is the copyright issues we discuss here. They're not on the top 10 lists of any candidate as far as I know.

For the record, candidate Kucinich has not missed a vote.

I admire that dedication. Still, I would rather see Kucinich as Secretary of the Interior than President at this point. I think that job would be a perfect fit for him, and the country has needed someone like Kucinich in that post for a long long time now.

This article is a bit old, but besides Kucinich, Edwards has missed fewer votes than any of the other presidential contenders who currently hold elected office.

Edwards skipped 38 -- or about a third -- of the 119 tallies cast during June and July, according to Senate records. Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry missed nine out of every 10 votes, while Connecticut Sen. Joseph Lieberman did slightly better by missing about eight in 10 votes. Missouri Rep. Dick Gephardt skipped almost every tally during July, when his chamber held about the same number of votes as did the Senate during that month and June combined. Ohio Rep. Dennis Kucinich, considered one of the long-shot candidates, missed no votes.

http://www.news-record.com/election/edwards/jevotes02.htm

For the record, I voted for Edwards. He's been running for President since we elected him to the Senate five years ago. He's been missing votes since he got in. Not just a vote here and there, but a lot of votes, everywhere.

Being on the campaign trail is no excuse. I point to Kucinich's sterling vote record in the House.

I voted for a Senator. Someone to represent me in Congress. What I got was a man running for president, who refuses to represent me in Congress. If he is not even going to make his votes, he should at least have the decency to resign and let the Governor appoint a good Democrat to take his place, be an incumbent, and represent the good people of NC.

I admit that he talks a good game. I am much less impressed by his actions. I would point out that bushie boy talked a good game too. Remember "compassionate conservatism" anyone? Listen to what they say, but watch what they do.

What has killed the Democrats over the last couple of decades is their drift to the right. As exemplified by John Edwards. I'm tired of it. I'm going to do something about it. Supporting my "home town boy," who hasn't earned my respect, is not part of my plan. I don't think Edwards can win the NC primary. If he can't carry his home state, that should tell you something. Watch and see.

I'm working for good Democrats in NC. We just re-elected our mayor, and my district's city councilwoman. Good Democrates both. It's a start. From the grass roots up, we are going to take our country back. Senator Edwards needs to get out of our way.

I spent a lot on getting Kucinich to reach down and write something worth reading, to contrast with Dean's not having risen above cage-liner. There were two really good posts by the candidate and one of his handlers that week, the first by a handler (and author of the bboard system used by the Kucinich campaign) on imitation (hence infringement) is both inherent and desireable in learing, and by the candidate on why betting the farm, and losing and going out into the cold and dark was the right thing to do. Those were impressive. They put a there there, while Dean and Trippi coasted on koolaide I seem to be a cup short of.

I tried to to reach the Dean borg-of-dumb (here and elsewhere) on Federal Indian Law, the chink in the candidate's armor that few non-indians could be bothered with. Its been a waste of time. Can't be instructed, and certain of winning the nomination (and loosing the general, and loosing the party).

I'm not going to ask my jurisdiction and intellectual property question. They wouldn't get answered anyway. I'm not going to comment that broadband is bogus, even with the assistance of my technical peer, who happens to be a right wing kook, a rather modest failing in the grand scheme of things, not nearly as bad as simply being vapid or ethically flexible. I'm not going to write the stimulous plan alternative to the progressive fragilization (there's a new word) of the internet.

Having two autistic sons, knowing about Edwards' work on disabilities and special needs, fragile x, it pisses me off beyond measure that in finite time he'll be out of the Senate and in the Raleigh equivalent of Gore-space. Politically dead, or profoundly moribund.

Oh well.

"even with the assistance of my technical peer, who happens to be a right wing kook"

that's giving Bennett too much credit, if it's Bennett you're talking about. jeez, I can't wait for him to blather on to Edwards about something pretending to be a productive topic, and fighting off the troll nicknames he deserves.

Yes. I ment Bennett. When a candidate says "wireless" is the answer, or "broadband", knowing why s/he got the question wrong matters more than how sweet the expert knowledge is to the ear. Thanks for the follow-up question.

I agree, Eric, but sometimes I've wished (and will again this week, I suspect) that his expert knowledge wasn't accompanied by such blatant pedantry, and condescension. There's enough non-trolling people out there with the same knowledge, I'd rather read them. Here's to hoping.

I think the reason John Edwards, more than other candidates, can beat George W. Bush is that he is more representative of the majority of Americans than the other electable Dems.

Edwards comes from Working America. How many times do you hear Bush talk about wanting to create jobs, and yet he never worked a real one in his life? Edwards can relate, because Working America is where he comes from.

Edwards is a political outsider. He spent his professional career as an attorney giving a voice to those who had none.

Edwards is a candid, honest person. I've not once heard him hedge on a position, flinch at a question, or engage in the rhetorical backtracking that other candidates engage in.

Edwards has a plan. He's put his vision for America in a book, Real Solutions for America, that is available from his campaign.

I hope more people will listen carefully to the vision each candidate is putting forth, and ask what vision most speaks to them?

I think for the majority of Americans, those who want more opportunity for more people and are willing to work for it, that individual will be John Edwards.

Bruce Watson is reposting letters that have mysteriously appeared in newspapers all over NC and on blogs all over the internet.

This doesn't change the fact that these letters are full of lies.

John Edwards has been and continues to be a very good Senator - his staff is highly responsive, and he is looking out for the people of this State. In addition, his campaign has brought exposure and respect to everyone in this State who is not an idiot.

If Bruce Watson can't see that having Edwards as the nominee will be a boon to those "good Democrats" he (I think falsely) claims to support, then he is truly myopic.

I really have a great appreciation for Senator Edwards. As I read the comments of others, I can’t help but think some of them don’t sound like they know this man very well. His character is impeccable as far as I know. The only thing that is Republican like about him is that he really does have the family values, ethics, and decency that Republicans only pretend to have. HE has true Christianity, which is simply Christ like compassion, which comes from the heart. It is far removed from the hypocritical, pandering lip service to the “Church” issues of the Republican party.

Edwards has taken a stand on all the important issues in Senate as far as I know, even while campaigning. What exactly are you saying that he missed. Occasionally the best senators boycott votes that they find irrelevant or hopeless causes. I know that he will continue to fight Patriot Act type legislation and reclaim our rights to privacy, and liberty and hold off the Bush/Ashcroft tyranny. HE has also sought harder than anyone to block the stacking of the courts with Bush’s hand selected tyrants and yes men.

I really appreciate the comment of L. LaP. He is stating something very important about the shady roots of the Bush Administration. He manages to do this without sounding paranoid. Something I have yet to accomplish, because quite frankly Bush, scares me! I have trouble talking about it without getting passionate. I hate Bush and everything he stands for. From his hostile takeover in the 2000 election, and his business dealings with Ben Lauden money, to his insane, Crusading, power mad, witch hunting Dictatorship set up shortly after 9/11. I don’t understand how he gets away with this stuff. He seems to have a blank check to ignore the constitution, as well as common sense. Thanks for putting these issues out there so calmly.

I am seeing in the political climate a strange, weird, and perhaps wonderful bonding between the far left (anti-war and ecology types), and the far right (Conspiracy theory types.) They are actually linking each other’s sites now to share attacks on Bush. They are quoting each other! They are finding that they have a lot in common, especially a common foe. I find this amazing. I wonder what, if anything, John Edwards plans to do to appeal to these folks on the fringes. To me anything that opposes G.W. is wonderful, no matter how strange. I think the extremists could be useful. They are courageous, active, and vocal. Perhaps a little nutty and volatile, but they are at least paying attention. How does he feel about Left and Right extremists joining hands to passionately fight Government tyranny? I think the far right is ready to swing Democrat, at least for now. They are ripe for the picking! They do represent a growing number of votes! Their literature also influences popular thought much more than most people like to admit. Who (even among even us liberals) didn’t at some point consider the validity of Right Wing conspiracy theory during this Bush administration? I thought about a lot of the stuff I scoffed at 10 years ago. Any way what can Edwards, offer extremists other than an end to Bush, which would probably be enough?

Also I want to know how Edwards plans to put an end to war and tension in the mid-east? How will he repair the injured relations between the US and the rest of the world? How can he assure the Muslims that we are not “Crusaders” seeking to crush Islam. I agree that our main focus should be our shattered economy, but what do we do about this giant mess in Iraq. I agree that spending money on government contracts to G.W.’s buddies isn’t the answer, but what is?

Love & Peace
FC

I agree with the poster from Iowa. All I see with Edwards is a guy playing to media images he assumes are popular. I've seen very little substance. He keeps harping on the notion that being a son of a mill worker somehow makes him the most qualified for president (probably because he thinks most regular folk believe that). Who cares if he comes from humble origins? Adolf Hitler came from humble origins and FDR came from the patrician class. Maybe that rhetoric plays in some parts of the South (but I doubt that means much to Southerners either) but that's not going to go far in a national campaign.

There's a hilarious anecdote from the campaign trail where a midwestern woman asked him why he can beat Bush. He responded with his usual mantra about his humble roots and his eventual achievement of the American dream. The woman responded dryly, "I don't think that's enough."
She hit the nail on the head. He better come up with something better to grab voters besides his roots, his Southern heritage, his photogenic appearance, and his trivial attacks on other candidates or he's going nowhere. His apparently heavy reliance on media consultants won't help him improve either. No great (or even good) politician in history has ever been the creation of media consultants or political strategists.

Bugs Bunny would be better President than the appointed one we now have. Having said that, I think Edwards would be a good president but I wish someone would re-light a fire under him. He is starting to play safe. I don't like that. That is the thing that interests me about Dean (even though he hasn't got a clue about the deep South).

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