Comments on: A Letter to the #Occup(iers): The Principle of Non-Contradiction http://www.lessig.org/2011/10/an-extremely-beautiful-free-cu/ Blog, news, books Tue, 10 Oct 2017 06:01:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.8.2 By: Finet co http://www.lessig.org/2011/10/an-extremely-beautiful-free-cu/#comment-49656 Mon, 13 Feb 2017 14:38:00 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/03/an_extremely_beautiful_free_cu.html#comment-49656 متخصص سئو

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By: seomed http://www.lessig.org/2011/10/an-extremely-beautiful-free-cu/#comment-49564 Mon, 31 Oct 2016 15:34:00 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/03/an_extremely_beautiful_free_cu.html#comment-49564 is very good website
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By: طراحی سایت http://www.lessig.org/2011/10/an-extremely-beautiful-free-cu/#comment-47592 Wed, 07 Jan 2015 10:49:00 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/03/an_extremely_beautiful_free_cu.html#comment-47592 Very excited about this

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By: Kreditkarten http://www.lessig.org/2011/10/an-extremely-beautiful-free-cu/#comment-5335 Thu, 08 Apr 2004 11:39:18 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/03/an_extremely_beautiful_free_cu.html#comment-5335 Diego says (my own Chicano translation)� �I share Brian�s opinion, the electronic edition of �Free Culture� is crisp (sharp, clear). We thank Professor Lessig for his work and especially for making his latest book available, in a form that we can read, discuss, comment and expand upon en Ecuador – South America.�

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By: Firas http://www.lessig.org/2011/10/an-extremely-beautiful-free-cu/#comment-5334 Fri, 02 Apr 2004 19:43:42 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/03/an_extremely_beautiful_free_cu.html#comment-5334 phr: ShareAlike is irritating because, for instance, say Free Culture was a photograph. If you did a photoessay with it, besides giving attribution and providing the essay noncommercially, you’d have to release many of the rights you may reserve otherwise.

By the way, all contributions to AaronSw’s wiki are under an attribution/noncommercial license (click ‘edit this page’ to see the note.)

Anyway, about blackmask, it’s an interesting question. I mean, the AMKA-solicited recordings, and the blackmask and other conversions, are they copyrighted? I’d suppose so :S the only part of them not copyrighted is lessig’s content.

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By: phr http://www.lessig.org/2011/10/an-extremely-beautiful-free-cu/#comment-5333 Fri, 02 Apr 2004 17:30:22 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/03/an_extremely_beautiful_free_cu.html#comment-5333 Daran, AAron’s blog post announcing that wiki is brilliant:

http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/001194

But there’s no explicit copyright on the wiki itself, which under the post-1977 copyright law, means there’s no permission for anyone else to copy it. Aaron might not even be able to fix that without getting everyone who’s already contributed to agree explicitly, or else throwing out all existing contributions and starting over from Larry’s text. There’s also that tree-structured HTML version, which seems to have been done mostly for the purpose of selling the structured-documentation software that generated it. If that’s the case, whoever did it might not be willing to permit anyone to make modified versions of the HTML file. The CC Share-Alike clause stops all of these problems and it really would make it easier and more rewarding for more people to improve the book.

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By: Guan Yang http://www.lessig.org/2011/10/an-extremely-beautiful-free-cu/#comment-5332 Fri, 02 Apr 2004 15:24:25 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/03/an_extremely_beautiful_free_cu.html#comment-5332 I’ve started the Danish translation on Aaron Swartz’s wiki.

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By: Taran http://www.lessig.org/2011/10/an-extremely-beautiful-free-cu/#comment-5331 Fri, 02 Apr 2004 14:26:49 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/03/an_extremely_beautiful_free_cu.html#comment-5331 phr, that’s what the Wikipedia is for. See the post above yours :)

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By: phr http://www.lessig.org/2011/10/an-extremely-beautiful-free-cu/#comment-5330 Fri, 02 Apr 2004 05:36:49 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/03/an_extremely_beautiful_free_cu.html#comment-5330 Prof Lessig,

I think it’s very unfortunate that you chose not to use the Share-Alike condition in the CC license for this book. The book has only been out a few days and there’s already all kinds of really cool stuff being done–separately by N different people, and hardly anyone has announced an explicit license on what they’ve done. That makes it impossible to make a new version that combines and incorporates the best features of other ones that have already been done, like maybe making a Swedish translation or audio reading of the wiki-edited version. It’s not even clear if it’s ok to do something very basic, like unzip Blackmask’s html rendition and put it on one’s own web site.

I think it’s in the spirit of the non-commercial clause to also include the share-alike clause in almost all cases.

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By: Taran http://www.lessig.org/2011/10/an-extremely-beautiful-free-cu/#comment-5329 Fri, 02 Apr 2004 04:26:46 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/03/an_extremely_beautiful_free_cu.html#comment-5329 Also a linked HTML version is presently in the process of being ‘created’ (reborn?) here.

As far as ‘intellectual property’, and for that matter, ‘piracy’, I do agree with RMS. In my reading of the book itself, ‘intellectual property’ has not been misrepresented in any way. It is, for better or worse (my opinion: Worse) a legal term which has to be addressed. As a human being, I find it’s use abhorrent, but as someone who lives in a society structured by laws (perhaps instead of being structured by the founding ethics?), laws need to come more in line with ethics – and technology has ever been where these two deviate. From Galileo to File sharing.

Technology is not a student in this scenario. It’s a teacher. Humanity likes to think that humanity is the master of technology. We are as much masters as slaves; we have the potential to be as empowered as we are to be disempowered. As Richard Feynman liked to say of his trip to a Buddhist temple, humanity is given a key which can unlock both Heaven or Hell.

Ask Oppenheimer.

On the flip side, change scares, therefore technology scares, and it scares people who don’t understand. They just happen to be in authority, and pen the laws. Now. But in the future generations?

I rambled. Sorry.

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By: Josh Cogliati http://www.lessig.org/2011/10/an-extremely-beautiful-free-cu/#comment-5328 Wed, 31 Mar 2004 23:29:09 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/03/an_extremely_beautiful_free_cu.html#comment-5328 There is also a wiki version of Free Culture at http://blogspace.com/freeculture/Main_Page .

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By: episodesusdbz http://www.lessig.org/2011/10/an-extremely-beautiful-free-cu/#comment-5327 Wed, 31 Mar 2004 22:49:13 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/03/an_extremely_beautiful_free_cu.html#comment-5327 I hate to be a pooh bear but I am a little nonplussed that free culture is not “free.”

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By: barcodegoeshere http://www.lessig.org/2011/10/an-extremely-beautiful-free-cu/#comment-5326 Wed, 31 Mar 2004 16:20:27 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/03/an_extremely_beautiful_free_cu.html#comment-5326 I’ve just quickly skim-read a couple of chapters and would be grateful if somebody could enlighten me on the “property” angle. GNU/Stallman who is namechecked several times in the preface has said that the term “intellectual property” is intentionally misleading, having only come into widespread usage since the ’70s formation of the WIPO. GNU/Stallman also maintains that refering to disparate areas of law under the “property” banner is a ploy to encourage simplistic thinking, indeed “property” is the angle taken by those who deliberately confuse copyright infringement and theft in an attempt to prejudice public inference.

Quote:

While �creative property� is certainly �property� in a nerdy and
precise sense that lawyers are trained to understand

There is no legal system I am aware of that has ever confused copyright and property, nor do I see it mentioned in the US constitution. Is “creative property” a term that existed prior to the formation of the WIPO? If you have to be “trained” to understand why retaining legal rights is some form of property then the argument is obviously somewhat contrived. So lets consider the arguments for this strange alchemy, this wonderous transmogrification, links anyone?

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By: mike http://www.lessig.org/2011/10/an-extremely-beautiful-free-cu/#comment-5325 Wed, 31 Mar 2004 13:10:08 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/03/an_extremely_beautiful_free_cu.html#comment-5325 After hearing you on the Brian Lehrer show on WNYC (www.wnyc.org… look for archives… he was on in 2nd hour…)
It seems that you now are dis-associating yourself from your previous effort to champion the UCITA laws.

Please comment???

Have you made a 180 degree turn around in your beliefs?
It seems that the ideas proposed in free culture absolutely refute the “draconinan” ideas on ownership proposed in the overhaul of the UCC laws regarding software proposed in UCITA, and the original version of the UCC laws.

THAT you PROPOSED, as the COMMITTEE reporter, if I recall correctly too!!!!

Please discuss???
thanks in advance

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By: Martin Norb�ck http://www.lessig.org/2011/10/an-extremely-beautiful-free-cu/#comment-5324 Wed, 31 Mar 2004 07:29:48 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/03/an_extremely_beautiful_free_cu.html#comment-5324 To Guan, it would be a good idea to join infrastructure forces if we are to attempt translating this great work.

I was thinking in the lines of contacting existing book translators for tips on things like automation tools.

Don’t hesitate to contact me if you set something like this up.

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By: Les http://www.lessig.org/2011/10/an-extremely-beautiful-free-cu/#comment-5323 Tue, 30 Mar 2004 13:41:26 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/03/an_extremely_beautiful_free_cu.html#comment-5323 Lawrence,

Several of the recent posts here have provoked me to respond.

Why is it that you (and Stewart Baker, apparently) seem so surprised that it is the Republican Party that is likely to embrace your vision of Free Culture? It is, after all, simply the logical end that a truthful examination of what being a free-market, less-government, conservative brings about. Labels are so misleading. We should care little about whether this movement is called neo-conservatism, libertarianism, market-liberalism, or any other misleading tag chosen to describe it. Free Culture, like blogging itself, is about the exchange of ideas and the ability to create freely. It is the country in which we want to live.

It is this common thread of what we can be and should be espoused by people like you, Randy Barnett, Glenn Reynolds, Lawrence Solum, Steve Antler, Eugene Volokh, and many others that drive this examination of where we are truly heading. The truth is that people don’t understand intellectual property. Just the name puts people off. People don’t care about copyright law. Not yet. But what is done today stands to shape what will be the most important area of property law in this century. That is why the fight for the de-monopolization of thise ideas is so important.

Politicians will only talk about things that the electorate cares about. How many more lawsuits by the RIAA against college students will it take before enough people care about what it means to live in a corporately-owned culture? But Stewart Baker is right about which party will be most likely to rein in the abuse of copyrights and patents. It will not be a candidate who is, as you describe, “inside-the-beltway-tone-deaf.”

It wasn’t going to be Howard Dean, either.

Les

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By: Guan Yang http://www.lessig.org/2011/10/an-extremely-beautiful-free-cu/#comment-5322 Tue, 30 Mar 2004 12:52:27 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/03/an_extremely_beautiful_free_cu.html#comment-5322 Martin,

I’ve been toying with the idea of coordinating a collaborative wiki-based translation of the book to Danish. Maybe we could pool technical resources?

Guan

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By: Martin Norb�ck http://www.lessig.org/2011/10/an-extremely-beautiful-free-cu/#comment-5321 Tue, 30 Mar 2004 11:18:20 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/03/an_extremely_beautiful_free_cu.html#comment-5321 I sent an email before I realized I could post here. I’m just wondering if there are any plans on translating this book to Swedish.

I would not mind buying a number of copies in Swedish as gifts.

If there are no such plans, I could help, but translating the whole book by myself is too daunting a task for me right now.

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By: joe http://www.lessig.org/2011/10/an-extremely-beautiful-free-cu/#comment-5320 Mon, 29 Mar 2004 20:01:25 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/03/an_extremely_beautiful_free_cu.html#comment-5320 Diego says (my own Chicano translation)… “I share Brian’s opinion, the electronic edition of ‘Free Culture’ is crisp (sharp, clear). We thank Professor Lessig for his work and especially for making his latest book available, in a form that we can read, discuss, comment and expand upon en Ecuador – South America.”

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By: Brian http://www.lessig.org/2011/10/an-extremely-beautiful-free-cu/#comment-5319 Mon, 29 Mar 2004 19:33:54 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/03/an_extremely_beautiful_free_cu.html#comment-5319 The internet is such a nice place, even though I know very little spanish, I went to http://world.altavista.com/ and entered Diego’s text, it translated it for me to about what I thought it was. Just another example of how technology helps us all, or atleast me.

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By: diego sanchez http://www.lessig.org/2011/10/an-extremely-beautiful-free-cu/#comment-5318 Mon, 29 Mar 2004 18:41:40 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/03/an_extremely_beautiful_free_cu.html#comment-5318 Comparto la opini�n de Brian, la edici�n electr�nica del libro Cultura Libre es n�tida. Agradecemos al Profesor Lessig por su obra y en especial por poner a nuestra disposici�n su �ltimo libro de forma que podamos leerlo, discutirlo, comentarlo y exponerlo en Ecuador – Am�rica del Sur.

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By: Brian http://www.lessig.org/2011/10/an-extremely-beautiful-free-cu/#comment-5317 Mon, 29 Mar 2004 16:52:15 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/03/an_extremely_beautiful_free_cu.html#comment-5317 Very cool… I do have a question that has hit me smack dab in the forehead and Im not done with the book. In Chapter Six you quote

“Parliament rejected their requests. As one pamphleteer put it, in words that echo today,
I see no Reason for granting a further Term now, which will not hold as well for granting it again and again, as often as the Old ones Expire; so that should this Bill pass, it will in Effect be establishing a perpetual Monopoly, a Thing deservedly odious in the Eye of the Law; it will be a great Cramp to Trade, a Discouragement to Learning, no Benefit to the Authors, but a general Tax on the Publick; and all this only to increase the private Gain of the Booksellers.5″

Why has no one used this type of passage and changed it to the context of today? Does this not exactly state why copyrights should be left at a set term without continually being revisited and pushed out?

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