Comments on: iSummit Sapporo — in 5 minutes http://www.lessig.org/2008/04/isummit-sapporo-in-5-minutes/ Blog, news, books Sun, 15 Oct 2017 09:20:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.8.2 By: Steve Baba http://www.lessig.org/2008/04/isummit-sapporo-in-5-minutes/#comment-13259 Fri, 11 Apr 2008 03:13:11 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2008/04/isummit_sapporo_in_5_minutes.html#comment-13259 Perhaps I should clarify my argument.

A minor argument is that reading blogs (or Wikipedia) will not help with your grammar. A grammer mistake, intentional or unintentional, by me or anyone. SUPPORTS my argument.

The larger argument is that blogs are usually of such a poor quality because the people writing them are UNPAID amateurs, who should not take the time to do a quality job – not that they are (all) idiots who can’t do a quality job.

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By: David Staub http://www.lessig.org/2008/04/isummit-sapporo-in-5-minutes/#comment-13258 Sun, 06 Apr 2008 02:50:13 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2008/04/isummit_sapporo_in_5_minutes.html#comment-13258 Even if it wasn’t a complete sentence, so what? Most blogs are about communicating ideas, information and opinions, not about writing technically precise prose. The fact that you misread the sentence doesn’t make it ambiguous. It just means you misread the sentence.

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By: Stan Rhodes http://www.lessig.org/2008/04/isummit-sapporo-in-5-minutes/#comment-13257 Sun, 06 Apr 2008 01:23:36 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2008/04/isummit_sapporo_in_5_minutes.html#comment-13257 Posted by Steve Baba:
“And this could be another reason for NOT reading blogs. Your grammer will suffer, in addition to being exposed to bad reasoning and bad “facts.” At least with newspapers, writers usually know how to write and editors fix any mistakes.”

“Your grammer will suffer”

“grammer”

Bravo. It was likely even underlined in red in your entry box. You checkmated yourself.

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By: Steve Baba http://www.lessig.org/2008/04/isummit-sapporo-in-5-minutes/#comment-13256 Sat, 05 Apr 2008 10:38:37 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2008/04/isummit_sapporo_in_5_minutes.html#comment-13256 You need a verb in the main clause to make a sentence.

Steve is fast. – a sentence

Steve, who is fast. – not a sentence.

But the point is that Lessig the Web 2.0 advocate of the web being greater than old media, is phoning it in, as am I.

And this could be another reason for NOT reading blogs. Your grammer will suffer, in addition to being exposed to bad reasoning and bad “facts.” At least with newspapers, writers usually know how to write and editors fix any mistakes.

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By: Pathos Viguela http://www.lessig.org/2008/04/isummit-sapporo-in-5-minutes/#comment-13255 Sat, 05 Apr 2008 07:18:50 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2008/04/isummit_sapporo_in_5_minutes.html#comment-13255 “The first iSummit at which I’ll just be an attendee.” has a verb. TO BE.

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By: Steve Baba http://www.lessig.org/2008/04/isummit-sapporo-in-5-minutes/#comment-13254 Sat, 05 Apr 2008 03:06:43 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2008/04/isummit_sapporo_in_5_minutes.html#comment-13254 It’s likely that you read the statement one way, like I read it the other way first, which makes it vague. The statement is true if it’s the first annual iSummit or the fourth annual iSummit.

Lawyers are very good with being precise, because contracts hinge on single words. But on the web no one,apparently puts much effort into proofreading. I don’t either.

FYI, by placing the modifier (first) in front of the thing it modifies is the typical way to make your writing less vague. Move the first from in front of the iSummit to in front of just an attendee. It’s called a “misplaced modifier” if you want to google it.

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By: bb http://www.lessig.org/2008/04/isummit-sapporo-in-5-minutes/#comment-13253 Fri, 04 Apr 2008 22:44:04 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2008/04/isummit_sapporo_in_5_minutes.html#comment-13253 Baba, it’s sad to see you come here and comment on every post and criticize Lessig for one thing or another.

“The first iSummit at which I’ll just be an attendee.”

Not vague, at all.

You come across as a caustic jerk. I enjoy some of your comments and enjoy reading lots of divergent points of view on Lessig’s blog, but I think you come across sometimes as caustic and mildly insulting towards Professor Lessig.

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By: Steve Baba http://www.lessig.org/2008/04/isummit-sapporo-in-5-minutes/#comment-13252 Fri, 04 Apr 2008 21:12:27 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2008/04/isummit_sapporo_in_5_minutes.html#comment-13252 The Weir: You are right. “The first iSummit at which I’ll just be an attendee.” Could be read two ways. And it’s the writer’s fault for writing a vague sentence. Wait, I don’t even think it’s a sentence since it has no verb. A mistake I make sometimes. Not the type of writing that I would expect from any lawyer, unless it was just a fast off the cuff comment online.

Trying ideas fast, fail-fast and fail-often, can be a good plan when the cost of failure is small, like here, but “people like Lessig” who try new ideas not well walked through are providing a disservice when it mucks up government. I would think Lessig would walk over to the political science department and get some feedback from experts outside of his own limited area of legal expertise.

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By: TheWeir http://www.lessig.org/2008/04/isummit-sapporo-in-5-minutes/#comment-13251 Wed, 02 Apr 2008 17:45:27 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2008/04/isummit_sapporo_in_5_minutes.html#comment-13251 Steve Baba – I think “Lessig” meant that this was the first time he will be at the iSummit event as a delegate (ie an attendee) rather than as a speaker/contributor.

I’d be interested in who “people like Lessig” are too. From my (albeit limited) perspecitve, Prof. Lessig is pretty well-read and informed.

Anyway, I’m just being a pedant.

Peace

W

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By: Steve Baba http://www.lessig.org/2008/04/isummit-sapporo-in-5-minutes/#comment-13250 Wed, 02 Apr 2008 07:52:38 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2008/04/isummit_sapporo_in_5_minutes.html#comment-13250 The iCommons.org website lists it as the FOURTH iSummit, and since they have a picture of iSummit 2007, I would be inclined to believe them.

I assume that Lessig knows, but not most Wikipeidia administrators know, that all copyrighted ideas, such as Mancur Olson’s The Logic of Collective Action can be freely used. You just can’t copy the exact words.

And if you wanted the exact words for free, you could go to the library and borrow the book for free.

The problem has always been that people like Lessig don’t have the time or don’t bother to learn – the tragedy of the commons or everybody’s business is nobody’s business.

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