Comments on: Free Debates: CNN HAS ANNOUNCED IT WILL FREE THE DEBATES http://www.lessig.org/2007/05/free-debates-cnn-has-announced/ Blog, news, books Sun, 15 Oct 2017 09:20:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.8.2 By: Custom http://www.lessig.org/2007/05/free-debates-cnn-has-announced/#comment-15261 Thu, 06 Dec 2007 04:50:58 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2007/05/free_debates_cnn_has_announced.html#comment-15261 Here is the update. Gaines of MSNBC says in an e-mail to us that:

“News and information websites can use the video with the same restrictions as broadcast outlets. So, yes, they can download and have on their site and edit. Just like other television networks.”

Still to be determined, we presume: exactly what is a “news and information website.

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By: Garment http://www.lessig.org/2007/05/free-debates-cnn-has-announced/#comment-15260 Tue, 30 Oct 2007 12:58:05 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2007/05/free_debates_cnn_has_announced.html#comment-15260 Actually, if Fox and CNN both allow redistribution rights, bloggers could remix the entire debate, showing each network’s edits and cutaways to demonstrate the type of bias you describe. That’s never been possible before.

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By: owen rebbe http://www.lessig.org/2007/05/free-debates-cnn-has-announced/#comment-15259 Sun, 15 Jul 2007 07:25:22 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2007/05/free_debates_cnn_has_announced.html#comment-15259 HELP I need someone with a web cam to ask a question for me or yourself if you like the question

Question for alll candidates

In the interest of election reform would you consider repaeling the seventeenth amendment thereby putting the responsibility back to the individual states to APPOINT their state senators. possibly blunting the effect of the flood of lobbyist money.

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By: powerleveling http://www.lessig.org/2007/05/free-debates-cnn-has-announced/#comment-15258 Sun, 10 Jun 2007 19:12:10 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2007/05/free_debates_cnn_has_announced.html#comment-15258 It sounds like a good idea that the debates have been made public
But will it last long?

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By: ACS http://www.lessig.org/2007/05/free-debates-cnn-has-announced/#comment-15257 Thu, 10 May 2007 00:12:07 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2007/05/free_debates_cnn_has_announced.html#comment-15257 Honestly, do you think that Creationism would have any support in the US if there were no charismatic speakers arguing on its behalf? Do you think anyone would deny the fact of global warming and our responsibility for it?

Lol – true – but then again Global Warming is a load of BS. Ironically, it is the environmentalists who have the charisma in that debate (Al Gore [Charisma??], Nicolas Stern, etc).

On to actual matters, congrats – for achieving what few others could – use of impressive legal rhetoric to get major companies to relinquish their legal rights. Well done.

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By: Ryan Morrison http://www.lessig.org/2007/05/free-debates-cnn-has-announced/#comment-15256 Wed, 09 May 2007 07:48:36 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2007/05/free_debates_cnn_has_announced.html#comment-15256 I don’t know the ins and outs of US politics or media to a great extent but wouldn’t it be logical for someone like You Tube or even the Creative Commons foundation to host a live debate?

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By: kendall joy http://www.lessig.org/2007/05/free-debates-cnn-has-announced/#comment-15255 Wed, 09 May 2007 02:05:27 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2007/05/free_debates_cnn_has_announced.html#comment-15255 This is a dream come true, at least, a little one. I remember hitting the books during the first two debates this season and missing my high school days of watching tv when I wanted to. And I remember being confused and giving up when I couldn’t find the debates broadcast online.
Thanks.

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By: Mark Memmott http://www.lessig.org/2007/05/free-debates-cnn-has-announced/#comment-15254 Mon, 07 May 2007 16:47:43 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2007/05/free_debates_cnn_has_announced.html#comment-15254 Fox News says it will not allow free use of debate video: http://blogs.usatoday.com/onpolitics/2007/05/cnns_decision_t.html

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By: jdc http://www.lessig.org/2007/05/free-debates-cnn-has-announced/#comment-15253 Mon, 07 May 2007 12:29:16 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2007/05/free_debates_cnn_has_announced.html#comment-15253 Hmm… actually both our points may be moot… since CNN is “hosting” the debates, would other networks’ cameras be allowed in the room, rebroadcast rights or not?

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By: jdc http://www.lessig.org/2007/05/free-debates-cnn-has-announced/#comment-15252 Mon, 07 May 2007 12:26:33 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2007/05/free_debates_cnn_has_announced.html#comment-15252 mice: If FOX trusts CNN to impartially edit the debate feed, then they could decide to re-use it, and save a few thousand bucks on a camera crew. But I don’t see that happening. If Hillary looks at her watch, FOX wants a camera aimed at her, and they won’t trust CNN to do it.

“There are editors working behind the scenes selecting what is broadcast” You’re right — camera selection, cutaways, etc. do matter (for those “watch checking” moments). But they can only go so far — there are always bloggers, newspaper reporters, and supporters of each candidate in the live audience. If actual questions are omitted, or responses changed, it will be caught quickly.

Actually, if Fox and CNN both allow redistribution rights, bloggers could remix the entire debate, showing each network’s edits and cutaways to demonstrate the type of bias you describe. That’s never been possible before.

Sure, in an ideal world we’d have access to the live feeds from each camera… but this is a huge improvement. Cheers to Lessig for pursuing this one.

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By: three blind mice http://www.lessig.org/2007/05/free-debates-cnn-has-announced/#comment-15251 Mon, 07 May 2007 11:21:18 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2007/05/free_debates_cnn_has_announced.html#comment-15251 Therefore, CNN debate coverage will be made available without restrictions at the conclusion of each live debate. We believe this is good for the country and good for the electoral process.

whilst this is clearly another victory for commercial giants Google and YouTube we are hard-pressed to see how this is IN ANY WAY a victory for the electoral process.

if the video can be rebroadcast on YouTube “at the conclusion of each live debate” does this not mean there is less reason (or perhaps none at all) for other news outlets to cover the debate? without the incentive of copyright to encourage others to make their own recording of history, we will only have one version of it.

remember when king george the 41st glanced down at his watch during his debate with clinton? remember how the news media (correctly) picked that up as an indication of his aloofness and disinterest? many people have said that that was a seminal moment in the campaign which contributed to his loss.

we can all rest assured that CNN would not wish to embarass their favorite candidate in the same way. remember friends “live” is not live – nor is it complete. there are editors working behind the scenes selecting what is broadcast. with only CNN there to record (and edit) history, we will only have CNNs version of history – rebroadcast countless times until it becomes the “official” truth.

now imagine, if you will, that FOX news is in charge of the cameras…..

when the news media bows down to the mob – it is rarely because it is in the mob’s best interest.

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By: Co http://www.lessig.org/2007/05/free-debates-cnn-has-announced/#comment-15250 Sun, 06 May 2007 18:26:38 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2007/05/free_debates_cnn_has_announced.html#comment-15250 Congrats, Larry — a magnificent victory!

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By: Ryan http://www.lessig.org/2007/05/free-debates-cnn-has-announced/#comment-15249 Sun, 06 May 2007 13:18:23 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2007/05/free_debates_cnn_has_announced.html#comment-15249 I’m happy they’re releasing the debates for the sole reason that I do not own a TV. As for the public making informed decisions in elections, there is no such thing. You can make the most informed and rational decision when selecting a candidate but in won’t make a bit of difference once he gets into office. Leviathan will continue to grow and grow.

Ron Paul, who I greatly admire, would have a difficult time reducing Leviathan even if he vetoes every bill that crosses his desk. Congress will try to override any bill that cuts off funding for their favorite pork projects. Just think how demonized he’ll be when he tries to eliminate the Department of Education.

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By: Jason Sanchez http://www.lessig.org/2007/05/free-debates-cnn-has-announced/#comment-15248 Sun, 06 May 2007 11:09:56 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2007/05/free_debates_cnn_has_announced.html#comment-15248 It sounds like a good idea that the debates have been made public, but the idealized notion that, somehow, by providing these debates freely that the public will make more informed decisions on their basis isn’t really well-founded. If we, as scientists and scholars, have learned anything about Joe Q Public, it’s that he responds to charisma and not so much to reasoning.

Honestly, do you think that Creationism would have any support in the US if there were no charismatic speakers arguing on its behalf? Do you think anyone would deny the fact of global warming and our responsibility for it?

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By: Michael R. Bernstein http://www.lessig.org/2007/05/free-debates-cnn-has-announced/#comment-15247 Sun, 06 May 2007 01:29:36 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2007/05/free_debates_cnn_has_announced.html#comment-15247 I consider it completely shameful that a *cable network* was the first to agree to this, and not one of the broadcast networks that enjoy the use of the public airwaves.

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By: matt lee http://www.lessig.org/2007/05/free-debates-cnn-has-announced/#comment-15246 Sat, 05 May 2007 23:09:05 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2007/05/free_debates_cnn_has_announced.html#comment-15246 why do i get a feeling this will mean proprietary formats and probably non-commercial restriction. maybe i’m getting cynical..

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By: Petition: Lou Dobbs for debate moderator http://www.lessig.org/2007/05/free-debates-cnn-has-announced/#comment-15245 Sat, 05 May 2007 22:49:16 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2007/05/free_debates_cnn_has_announced.html#comment-15245 Congratulations. Now perhaps the same people behind the first petition can move on and demand that we have real debates featuring real questions about real issues instead of puffballs and time wasters. Free video isn’t worth anything if it’s just the candidates reciting their talking points.

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By: name http://www.lessig.org/2007/05/free-debates-cnn-has-announced/#comment-15244 Sat, 05 May 2007 19:24:15 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2007/05/free_debates_cnn_has_announced.html#comment-15244 I’ve seen this reported in several places, yet few people (c.f. Fred Benson) are asking the glaring question “What does ‘no restrictions’ *mean*?”. I would be shocked if it actually turns out to be public domain.

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By: Brad Templeton http://www.lessig.org/2007/05/free-debates-cnn-has-announced/#comment-15243 Sat, 05 May 2007 16:26:10 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2007/05/free_debates_cnn_has_announced.html#comment-15243 Bravo and congratulations, Larry. I was too cynical. (Can’t imagine what made me cynical about politicians.)

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By: Fred Beneson http://www.lessig.org/2007/05/free-debates-cnn-has-announced/#comment-15242 Sat, 05 May 2007 15:40:07 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2007/05/free_debates_cnn_has_announced.html#comment-15242 This is fantastic, but I can’t help myself, what does “without restrictions” mean? Public Domain dedication? CC-BY?

Either way, congratulations, this is a real coup.

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By: Georgia Harper http://www.lessig.org/2007/05/free-debates-cnn-has-announced/#comment-15241 Sat, 05 May 2007 15:22:23 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2007/05/free_debates_cnn_has_announced.html#comment-15241 And bravo, Lessig, for staying on it!

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