Comments on: Free Debates: Barack is on board http://www.lessig.org/2007/05/free-debates-barack-is-on-boar/ Blog, news, books Thu, 12 Oct 2017 08:56:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.8.2 By: kristin guiliani http://www.lessig.org/2007/05/free-debates-barack-is-on-boar/#comment-15285 Mon, 29 Sep 2008 19:33:04 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2007/05/free_debates_barack_is_on_boar.html#comment-15285 FIRST I’D LIKE TO START BY SAYING THAT BARACK OBAMA VOTED TO INCREASE TAXES ON SINGLE PEOPLE MAKING $42,000.00 DOLLARS A YEAR WHO DO NOT OWN THEIR OWN HOME. THAT IS A FACT AND SENATOR JOHN MCCAIN CALLED HIM ON IT AND NOBAMA LIED STRAIGHT OUT. I THINK THIS COUNTRY NEEDS TO KNOW MORE ABOUT NOBAMA’S RELATIONSHIP WITH FRANKLIN RAINES AND THE ACORN INSTITUTION WHICH I’VE BEEN TOLD IS ONE OF THE MOST CORRUPT ENTITIES IN THIS COUNTRY. ALSO WHERE DID THE 900 MILLION DOLLARS BARACK ASK FOR GO IN THE STATE OF ILLINOIS. IT CERTAINLY DID NOT GO TOWARDS EDUCATION IN CHICAGO. WAKE UP AMERICA!

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By: Melissa http://www.lessig.org/2007/05/free-debates-barack-is-on-boar/#comment-15284 Tue, 18 Mar 2008 18:56:33 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2007/05/free_debates_barack_is_on_boar.html#comment-15284 I am all for the fact that we are seeing history in the making with the presidential candidates we have running this year. But the only thing that I have a problem with is the fact that every one is using the term African American when it comes to describing Obama and in fact he is’nt, he is the product of white mother (and forgive me for not being politically correct) a black father which makes him bi-racial. To call him an African American is a false statement because he is’nt. And I wish the cadidates and the media would start using the correct term when it comes to describing Obamas race. Thanks

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By: Fire Ben Stanfield http://www.lessig.org/2007/05/free-debates-barack-is-on-boar/#comment-15283 Sat, 01 Dec 2007 01:06:15 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2007/05/free_debates_barack_is_on_boar.html#comment-15283 Why was the nut case blogger Ben Stanfield allowed to join the Obama Campaign? Ben Stanfield has smeared every Democrat in Virginia.

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By: real american http://www.lessig.org/2007/05/free-debates-barack-is-on-boar/#comment-15282 Thu, 08 Nov 2007 06:16:39 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2007/05/free_debates_barack_is_on_boar.html#comment-15282 You would vote for a fucking towel head. You aint americans you fucken retards

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By: J.B. Nicholson-Owens http://www.lessig.org/2007/05/free-debates-barack-is-on-boar/#comment-15281 Fri, 04 May 2007 18:18:38 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2007/05/free_debates_barack_is_on_boar.html#comment-15281 Yes, participants can place any conditions on their appearance if they wish. But isn’t that exactly what’s not happening? From what I read in the Obama and Edwards letters neither candidate is saying anything akin to “license the debate recordings in this way or I won’t appear”. When we see media darling Sen. Obama not doing this, I think we can rest assured that copyright issues are not going to trump a chance to publicly parade their corporatist fealty.

This kind of issue will come up again toward the end of the campaign. If any Democrat or Republican really cared about the public’s interest in the bipartisan (and I say that with sadness) CPD-sponsored “debates” they would condition their appearance on something that would include more candidates (perhaps inviting all presidential candidates that had a mathematical chance of winning the presidency according to electoral college votes, perhaps something else that didn’t give corporate media veto power). They don’t dare adopt any standard that leaves them with less control to exclude candidates (and therefore avoid uncomfortable issues). In the past the public wanted to see real debates with Nader and Buchanan, not just the Democrats/Republicans who bring us coordinated press gatherings (I refer you to OpenDebates.org for more detail of the problem of CPD’s so-called “debates”).

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By: P. from Weston MA http://www.lessig.org/2007/05/free-debates-barack-is-on-boar/#comment-15280 Fri, 04 May 2007 18:07:20 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2007/05/free_debates_barack_is_on_boar.html#comment-15280 This is amazing, I’m a long-time right-winger but a candidate supporting Creative Commons/alternative licensing will not only get my vote, but also my support.

And as a bonus, he isn’t Hillary!

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By: Chris L http://www.lessig.org/2007/05/free-debates-barack-is-on-boar/#comment-15279 Fri, 04 May 2007 17:36:06 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2007/05/free_debates_barack_is_on_boar.html#comment-15279 Names are a matter of convenience. There’s already a more well-known “Clinton”, and “Obama” is easily confused with “Osama” by those not paying enough attention. Do not attribute to racism/sexism that which can be attributed to laziness, a much more common flaw. ;)

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By: Steve Foerster http://www.lessig.org/2007/05/free-debates-barack-is-on-boar/#comment-15278 Fri, 04 May 2007 16:01:31 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2007/05/free_debates_barack_is_on_boar.html#comment-15278 Dewi Morgan asks, “Works made by the US government are exempted from copyright, and are truly the property of the people. Why are presidential debates not covered by this law?”

Because the presidential debates aren’t a government activity. They’re held by a private organization, specifically set up by the major parties to keep alternative candidates from getting attention.

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By: mike a http://www.lessig.org/2007/05/free-debates-barack-is-on-boar/#comment-15277 Fri, 04 May 2007 12:17:58 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2007/05/free_debates_barack_is_on_boar.html#comment-15277 Wow, this is fantastic. Every once in a while the guy does something that indicates that he gets it. In this case getting it refers to understanding the internet as a way to store information about our government, to allow people to actually think about what it is doing. Television just doesn’t foster the sort of depth of understanding�it’s more about feeling than meaning�that a functioning democracy requires.

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By: noni mouse http://www.lessig.org/2007/05/free-debates-barack-is-on-boar/#comment-15276 Fri, 04 May 2007 11:18:13 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2007/05/free_debates_barack_is_on_boar.html#comment-15276 Re: first names
We call people we *LIKE* by their first names. Remember ‘FOB’ = Friend of Bill?

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By: Lessig http://www.lessig.org/2007/05/free-debates-barack-is-on-boar/#comment-15275 Fri, 04 May 2007 07:24:51 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2007/05/free_debates_barack_is_on_boar.html#comment-15275 Re spelling errors: thanks. Growing old is about learning just how stupid you are.

Re ACS’s comment about the ownership of copyright: That’s exactly right. But candidates can condition their appearance on a show in any number of ways. One is to say you must waive your exclusive right over the content.

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By: three blind mice http://www.lessig.org/2007/05/free-debates-barack-is-on-boar/#comment-15274 Fri, 04 May 2007 03:16:14 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2007/05/free_debates_barack_is_on_boar.html#comment-15274 Copyright is counterproductive, whatever you wrap it in: GPL, CC, Disney, it’s all bad, serving only to protect big business from the little guy.

certainly, Dewi Morgan, copyright can be used by “big companies”, but it is also the only tool the “little guy” has to protect himself against those “big companies.”

and a pet peeve professor – no one ever refers to Howard Dean as “Howard”, Mitt Romney as “Mitt”, or John Edwards as “John”, but it’s always “Barack” and “Hillary.” there seems to be a legacy in America that it is OK to refer to black men and women (black and white) by their first names.

we respectfully submt that it isn’t. senator obama works just fine.

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By: Obama constituent http://www.lessig.org/2007/05/free-debates-barack-is-on-boar/#comment-15273 Fri, 04 May 2007 01:43:32 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2007/05/free_debates_barack_is_on_boar.html#comment-15273 Obama is a huge disappointment. He’s got no leadership abilities whatsoever. If I call his office I know I’ll only get the “we’re afraid to take a position unless it’s benign” song and dance.

I don’t want him for my senator. I certainly don’t want him following the witless wonder in the White House where REAL leadership will be needed.

Obama should get his fat head out of the clouds and do the @#$%^& job we voters from Illinois sent him to the senate to do!!!

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By: J.B. Nicholson-Owens http://www.lessig.org/2007/05/free-debates-barack-is-on-boar/#comment-15272 Thu, 03 May 2007 21:53:41 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2007/05/free_debates_barack_is_on_boar.html#comment-15272 It’s too bad that on far more important topics he looks so bad. At a recent candidate forum he brought nothing substantive to examine on health care. He takes corporate campaign money, distanced himself from Sen. Durbin’s torture criticism (as did Durbin which was also a step in the wrong direction), voted twice to confirm Condoleeza Rice, and supported attacking Iran.

But, as ACS pointed out, he’s for asking a group that won’t negotiate on our behalf to control the licensing of the recording to support sharing and modification with attribution. Whee.

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By: Dewi Morgan http://www.lessig.org/2007/05/free-debates-barack-is-on-boar/#comment-15271 Thu, 03 May 2007 21:48:49 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2007/05/free_debates_barack_is_on_boar.html#comment-15271 Works made by the US government are exempted from copyright, and are truly the property of the people. Why are presidential debates not covered by this law?

Copyright is counterproductive, whatever you wrap it in: GPL, CC, Disney, it’s all bad, serving only to protect big business from the little guy. Public Domain is the only non-evil option. Efforts to make government code written by contractors be GPL licensed instead of PD were rightfully struck down, and so should be this CC effort.

Presidential debates are work done by the government, for the nation. Any record of them should be PD.

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By: Philipp Lenssen http://www.lessig.org/2007/05/free-debates-barack-is-on-boar/#comment-15270 Thu, 03 May 2007 20:30:29 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2007/05/free_debates_barack_is_on_boar.html#comment-15270 A politician who heard of Creative Commons: +1 points.
A politician who *supports* Creative Commons: +2 points.

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By: ACS http://www.lessig.org/2007/05/free-debates-barack-is-on-boar/#comment-15269 Thu, 03 May 2007 20:28:44 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2007/05/free_debates_barack_is_on_boar.html#comment-15269 Spelling mistakes aside, can someone tell me why letters are going to the DNC and RNC – doesnt MSNBC own the copyright to the broadcasts. What, if anything, can the RNC/DNC do about it??

Seems like a bit of a furphy to me.

Alex

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By: Brendan Lane Larson http://www.lessig.org/2007/05/free-debates-barack-is-on-boar/#comment-15268 Thu, 03 May 2007 18:13:03 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2007/05/free_debates_barack_is_on_boar.html#comment-15268 Larry,

A minor spelling correction — you have misspelled this Presidential candidate’s first name twice:

1.) this blog post to which I am commenting on, and

2.) your post that you point to which you wrote three years ago.

Its Barack not “Barak”.

-Brendan Larson

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By: Doug Kaye http://www.lessig.org/2007/05/free-debates-barack-is-on-boar/#comment-15267 Thu, 03 May 2007 18:00:57 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2007/05/free_debates_barack_is_on_boar.html#comment-15267 I posted some thoughts on my blog.

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By: Ben Stanfield http://www.lessig.org/2007/05/free-debates-barack-is-on-boar/#comment-15266 Thu, 03 May 2007 17:53:04 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2007/05/free_debates_barack_is_on_boar.html#comment-15266 Oops, you spelled his first name wrong in the post’s subject.

Don’t be too embarrassed, though….so far the New York Times hasn’t caught it. They did when we put out our first press release for Draft Obama.

I’m glad to see he’s on board with the CC idea. I hope he continues to encourage a completely open debate policy, and can’t wait until he’s able to appoint supreme court justices….Chief Justice Lessig does have a nice ring to it.

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