Comments on: New Jersey has changed its charitable immunity law http://www.lessig.org/2006/01/new-jersey-has-changed-its-cha/ Blog, news, books Fri, 03 Feb 2017 16:59:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.8.2 By: Turkcell http://www.lessig.org/2006/01/new-jersey-has-changed-its-cha/#comment-48694 Thu, 01 Oct 2015 22:27:00 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2006/01/new_jersey_has_changed_its_cha.html#comment-48694 Elimizden telefonu düşürmediğimiz bu çağda hiç şüphe yokki telefona bağımlılığımız internette gezinmekten kaynaklanmaktadır. Kimi zaman sıkıntılarımızı , kimi zaman işlerimizi, kimi zaman video ve filmleri internet aracılığı ile izleriz. Turkcell 4.5G alt yapısı ile hızlı internet superonline internet ile sizlerle sizde ayrıcalıklardan yararlanmak için bizi tercih ediniz.

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By: Judith http://www.lessig.org/2006/01/new-jersey-has-changed-its-cha/#comment-17821 Fri, 18 Apr 2008 21:15:03 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2006/01/new_jersey_has_changed_its_cha.html#comment-17821 Wrongful accusations and convictions of sexual abuse result in devastation to children, they may lose a safe and caring parent to a malicious, vindictive or abusive parent or suffer far, far worse. For example, my husband was wrongfully accused by my children’s father of sexually abusing our children. The accuser had previously spent 9 months in prison for domestic violence that was perpetrated in the presence of our children. The children were subjected to excessive questions numerous times by several police depts. DHS workers, counselors, doctors, nurses, sexual assault nurse examiners and child abuse clinics and were examined by such clinics numerous times as well. Although no sexual abuse was ever substantiated, and no evidence of sexual abuse was ever found, my husband was not allowed to see even his own children whom he has shared parental responsibilities for during the lengthy investigations. All of our children suffered immensely through this process and it was absolutely devastating for them and they are still in counseling years later. My daughter is terrified of doctors. Both children have been diagnosed with PTSD. Both children wish the laws that were designed to protect them from sexual abuse could have somehow been designed as well to protect them from false allegations and discourage the perpetrators of such.

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By: poptones http://www.lessig.org/2006/01/new-jersey-has-changed-its-cha/#comment-17820 Thu, 12 Jan 2006 18:26:21 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2006/01/new_jersey_has_changed_its_cha.html#comment-17820 Equating “child molestation” with “terrorism” in the contemporary context is “knee jerk” – it is a tired rhetorical tactic worthy only of beltway politicians making braindead pleas to a public fattened on junk food sound bites in a parietal attempt to cast their pet rider as politically untouchable as it careens toward the realm of “law.”

Perhaps you should try keeping up with the entire conversation…

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By: A http://www.lessig.org/2006/01/new-jersey-has-changed-its-cha/#comment-17819 Thu, 12 Jan 2006 16:56:59 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2006/01/new_jersey_has_changed_its_cha.html#comment-17819 WTF is up with some of you commenters?

Lessig’s plaintiff is not having a knee-jerk reaction to the concept of childhood sexuality; nor is Codey’s law one that would increase the likelihood of wrongful criminal convictions. Lessig’s client is suing civilly for ABUSE of a child by a — & here’s the big point — NON-child; & Codey’s law makes it easier for an abused child to recover, CIVILLY, from a nonprofit entity. No worries, sex offenders & free-thinking pediatric sexologists — these developments aren’t going to affect you.

How about getting your facts right, _then_ commenting??!

–A.

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By: poptones http://www.lessig.org/2006/01/new-jersey-has-changed-its-cha/#comment-17818 Wed, 11 Jan 2006 01:41:56 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2006/01/new_jersey_has_changed_its_cha.html#comment-17818 Shimano, you’re going to jail…

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By: poptones http://www.lessig.org/2006/01/new-jersey-has-changed-its-cha/#comment-17817 Mon, 09 Jan 2006 14:45:23 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2006/01/new_jersey_has_changed_its_cha.html#comment-17817 the problem here is adults – like the ridiculous jocelyn elders – projecting, or forcing,their views of sexuality onto children.

I don’t which offers the better “proof” of my earlier assertion: your comment above or shinat-sans rambling, nonsensical interjections.

If language is a virus, English is the virus that makes you stupid…

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By: three blind mice http://www.lessig.org/2006/01/new-jersey-has-changed-its-cha/#comment-17816 Mon, 09 Jan 2006 05:45:13 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2006/01/new_jersey_has_changed_its_cha.html#comment-17816 The problem is the societal knee jerk reaction to any notions of children having any form of “sexuality.”

poptones, children are not little adults. the problem here is adults – like the ridiculous jocelyn elders – projecting, or forcing,their views of sexuality onto children. kudos to the NJ state assembly for ignoring the sensitivity police and making adults responsible for their actions.

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By: poptones http://www.lessig.org/2006/01/new-jersey-has-changed-its-cha/#comment-17815 Sun, 08 Jan 2006 22:04:50 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2006/01/new_jersey_has_changed_its_cha.html#comment-17815 criminal child abuse is a serious matter. adults who rape children – and let’s call it what it is – and the organisations who enable them should not be granted immunity. a change in the law to this effect seems hardly like “incessant knee-jerking.”

The problem is the societal knee jerk reaction to any notions of children having any form of “sexuality.” When anyone has dared, in this society, dare even mention the idea that these children might be better off if they were not “protected” from their sexuality until their “delicate psyches” had formed they were basically run out of town on a rail. I’m not talking about pedo priests and frustrated pornographers here – I’m talking about well educated people who see the damage this utter perversion is doing to our culture and have had the guts to speak out – people like Jocelyn Elders. Look what happened to her when she (OH MY GOD) suggested children be taught it’s ok to explore their sexuality in an otherwise safe and healthy way.

People are forbidden by law from taking cameras to their kids sporting events or to beaches, for chrissake, because a bunch of vitriolic control freaks are worried about some errant perv committing what is, at its core, a thought crime – that of photographing and then whacking off over a bit of pubescent flesh. It’s a complete fucking witch hunt and the kids (and all of society) pay the price for the sake of offending a few right wing and left wing zealots.

It seems to be a symptom of english speaking nations. Australia, Great Britain, Canada, the US… these societies are absolutely off the wall (especially you brits).

Must be something about the English language making people insane… so much the better I polish up my Russian.

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By: Joseph Pietro Riolo http://www.lessig.org/2006/01/new-jersey-has-changed-its-cha/#comment-17814 Sun, 08 Jan 2006 20:53:28 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2006/01/new_jersey_has_changed_its_cha.html#comment-17814 To Three Blind Mice:

Naturally, I would feel outraged.

I was not looking only at one side of coin. I
was disputing your as well as Kate M.’s attitude
toward injustice. It is not just “collateral
damage”, to quote anonymous. It is a
manifestation of our failure to strive for
more perfect justice.

Injustice to very few people at the cost of
better justice for majority is not just unfortunate.
These few people are not at lower priority than
the majority. Injustice can’t be rationalized
away. It is a constant thorn to our society.
That is the attitude that we should adopt.

Joseph Pietro Riolo
<josephpietrojeungriolo@gmail.com>
<riolo@voicenet.com>

Public domain notice: I put all of my expressions in this
comment in the public domain.

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By: three blind mice http://www.lessig.org/2006/01/new-jersey-has-changed-its-cha/#comment-17813 Sun, 08 Jan 2006 16:51:48 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2006/01/new_jersey_has_changed_its_cha.html#comment-17813 It is just too easy for people to be indifference
to injustice as long as it occurs to other people
but it is just too amazing how their perspective
would change suddenly if injustice actually occurs
to them.

and how would you feel if you were to fall victim to someone who SHOULD have been prosecuted, but a system fearful of making an error stood frozen and did nothing or was forbidden by statute from doing anything or was encouraged by the cardinal to look the other way.

why do you always seem to insist on looking at only one side of the coin?

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By: Joseph Pietro Riolo http://www.lessig.org/2006/01/new-jersey-has-changed-its-cha/#comment-17812 Sun, 08 Jan 2006 11:34:31 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2006/01/new_jersey_has_changed_its_cha.html#comment-17812 To Three Blind Mice:

I wonder if you would still say the same thing if
injustice occurs to you. If you three guys (I
am assuming that you all are male) were locked
up in jail for life based on false allegations
that you did gang rape on a young girl along
with corrupt prosecutor and incompetent defense,
would you still say, “That’s unfortunate.”?

It is just too easy for people to be indifference
to injustice as long as it occurs to other people
but it is just too amazing how their perspective
would change suddenly if injustice actually occurs
to them.

Joseph Pietro Riolo
<josephpietrojeungriolo@gmail.com>
<riolo@voicenet.com>

Public domain notice: I put all of my expressions in this
comment in the public domain.

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By: three blind mice http://www.lessig.org/2006/01/new-jersey-has-changed-its-cha/#comment-17811 Sun, 08 Jan 2006 06:19:51 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2006/01/new_jersey_has_changed_its_cha.html#comment-17811 Get over your puritan upbringing and look at the world around you.

damn poptones. given up caffeine for the new year?

criminal child abuse is a serious matter. adults who rape children – and let’s call it what it is – and the organisations who enable them should not be granted immunity. a change in the law to this effect seems hardly like “incessant knee-jerking.”

further to what anonymous wrote, this is true for ANY law. some percentage of innocent people always fall victim to bad laws, corrupt prosecutors, incompetent defense (or if one is black and poor all three.) it’s unfortunate, but why should this be of particular concern in cases of criminal child abuse? some states execute people in error.

no government bureaucracy is going to produce an error-free result. economists call it rational ignorance. it is unfortunate, but it anyone can think of a better way to administer justice, please let us know.

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By: poptones http://www.lessig.org/2006/01/new-jersey-has-changed-its-cha/#comment-17810 Fri, 06 Jan 2006 17:45:21 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2006/01/new_jersey_has_changed_its_cha.html#comment-17810 Oh god, so now “terrorism” and “child molestation” share the same headline? PLEASE!

While I applaud any laws that remove special priviledges for non-profits (actually, I think they should be abolished altogether) I do not understand this incessant knee jerk reaction regarding matters of childhood sexuality. Get over your puritan upbringing and look at the world around you.

I don’t know a person who did not have sexual encounters as a child. Does this mean eveyr one of us is warped in some way? Of course every last one of us is screwed up in our own special and unique way – that doesn’t mean it’s because someone touched our wee before we were old enough to have been brainwashed by the puritan ethic that has completely perverted the US.

I’m pissed off and the whole world owes me! Now get them panties off, mister potty mouth!

“Vanessa Lutz,” from “Freeway”

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By: Anonymous http://www.lessig.org/2006/01/new-jersey-has-changed-its-cha/#comment-17809 Fri, 06 Jan 2006 07:57:41 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2006/01/new_jersey_has_changed_its_cha.html#comment-17809 Kate:

The more severe punishments are, the more important it is for the number of wrongful convictions to be zero. Of course, as far as I understood, this news does not in itself cause alarm in this respect.

In particularly disgusting crimes such as child molestation, terrorism, and slavery, many people think that some “collateral damage” is justified when sentencing the guilty.

It’s not, and it never will be, no matter how large an atrocity. I hope you did not mean that it should be.

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By: Kate M. http://www.lessig.org/2006/01/new-jersey-has-changed-its-cha/#comment-17808 Fri, 06 Jan 2006 03:54:30 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2006/01/new_jersey_has_changed_its_cha.html#comment-17808 How many children are abused, molested, raped, murdered per annum than people wrongfully convicted of sex abuse, “rich”? I’m as concerned as the next guy about the injustice of wrongfully convicting someone, but let’s get our priorities right, here.

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By: rich http://www.lessig.org/2006/01/new-jersey-has-changed-its-cha/#comment-17807 Thu, 05 Jan 2006 18:21:14 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2006/01/new_jersey_has_changed_its_cha.html#comment-17807 …and much worse for people wrongfully convicted of sex abuse.

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