Comments on: Ten Things That Will Be Free http://www.lessig.org/2005/08/ten-things-that-will-be-free/ Blog, news, books Thu, 02 Feb 2017 18:43:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.8.2 By: website http://www.lessig.org/2005/08/ten-things-that-will-be-free/#comment-28530 Wed, 27 Feb 2013 20:19:55 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/08/ten_things_that_will_be_free.html#comment-28530 These all YouTube gaming video tutorials are actually
in pleasant quality, I watched out all these along through my colleagues.

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By: merci http://www.lessig.org/2005/08/ten-things-that-will-be-free/#comment-27361 Sat, 12 Jan 2013 09:25:00 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/08/ten_things_that_will_be_free.html#comment-27361 Wonderful points altogether, you just gained a new reader. What may you recommend in regards to your publish that you just made some days ago? Any certain?

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By: shelby http://www.lessig.org/2005/08/ten-things-that-will-be-free/#comment-19023 Fri, 10 Aug 2007 01:04:09 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/08/ten_things_that_will_be_free.html#comment-19023 i would luv us if u could send me a labtop…. not because i went one but becouse i need one. i got a big family and there is never anytime for me to do my reports. I take my home work really searas i have not beening all that wall becouse my teachers dont like hand writen reports. so if us would send me a labtop i would really thankful.

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By: Ronny Max http://www.lessig.org/2005/08/ten-things-that-will-be-free/#comment-19022 Tue, 09 Aug 2005 21:08:42 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/08/ten_things_that_will_be_free.html#comment-19022 Here’s one – Free The Opportunity. It assumes knowledge is cumulative. Wikipedia is great, but if one has no idea Williams James existed, why would one search for it? If an individual doesn’t finish middle school, than university is out of the question. Therefore, the question is how to move people across the knowledge stairs and increase their options.

Part of the answer is economics. Free markets support the free movement of capital, land, and labor. But reality is much messier than theory. So, free opportunity provides a way to jump the hoops with a twist. First, free labor. Despite the hype, most people prefer to live in a place where their families and friends live, and where they are familiar with the culture (and where’s the supermarket). Hence, free labor means loose labor policies, but where health care and pension benefits are regulated, not administered, by the government. It also means free travel visas, limited by time, but without other restrictions. Second, free capital. And I don’t refer only to capital liquidity, but also a free flow of ideas – after all businesses are the source for economic growth. Third, free land. It applies to protection of property, land or intellectual.

Another part of the answer is politics. Democracy is an abused concept, but the gist of accountability matters most. Accountable systems allow people to influence decisions and create ways to deal with sensitive issues such as culture and religion.

Hence, free the opportunity stands for ripping restrictions and upping accountability in organizations.

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By: Newman http://www.lessig.org/2005/08/ten-things-that-will-be-free/#comment-19021 Tue, 09 Aug 2005 20:53:23 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/08/ten_things_that_will_be_free.html#comment-19021 Most known genealogical information will be freely available in Wiki form. It will be very easy to trace family trees back centuries.

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By: SAW http://www.lessig.org/2005/08/ten-things-that-will-be-free/#comment-19020 Tue, 09 Aug 2005 20:25:08 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/08/ten_things_that_will_be_free.html#comment-19020 3) INTERNET ACCESS: The internet will be free, ubiquitous, and wireless. ISPs will fade away.

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By: SAW http://www.lessig.org/2005/08/ten-things-that-will-be-free/#comment-19019 Tue, 09 Aug 2005 20:22:18 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/08/ten_things_that_will_be_free.html#comment-19019 1) RESEARCH: All research publications will be freely available. Academicians will publish all work in a freely accessible forum.

2) MUSIC: All music recording and playback will be free. People will pay to see a music performance, live. Recorded music will be free.

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By: Sundance http://www.lessig.org/2005/08/ten-things-that-will-be-free/#comment-19018 Tue, 09 Aug 2005 00:55:15 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/08/ten_things_that_will_be_free.html#comment-19018 Four things that will/should be free;

Law. Not just in terms of access to laws, but access to writing them. Why can’t we all write the laws we live by, via a wiki? I know, it’s a radical proposal, but I expect it would lead to simplified, common-sense laws, and a lot less of the weird-arse “you can’t sell cabbage on a tuesday while wearing brown shoes” nonsense that gets pushed through by special-interest groups or lingers for decades/centuries after cultural expectations have changed.

Species. Attempts to patent varieties of hybrid (i.e. infertile) or GM food crops so that farmers have to buy new seeds each year from huge corporations (rather than using the seed from last years’ crops) is the agricultural equivalent of software patents (DNA sequences are the software that creates organisms, after all). Hopefully as more of the public becomes aware of the Open-Source movement, they will start to stand up to copyrights/patents in other contexts as well.

Power. When we have fusion, electricity should be so cheap as to be (virtually) free. That will have flow-on effects (e.g. free electricity to desalinate seawater = free drinking water for third-world countries).

Stuff. With the advent of 3D printers, it becomes possible to produce almost any item from its digital blueprint – and these digital blueprints can be available under a GPL or equivalent. This process has already begun. So people could someday freely download, build, redesign and modify everything from vacuum cleaner parts to computers or DVD players, for only the price of (cheaply mass-produced) raw materials.

Maybe these are long-term or pie-in-the-sky goals, and I don’t want to waste space making anything more than simplistic outline statements. But I can see ways these things could happen. If we’re lucky, and smart.

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By: Rob Myers http://www.lessig.org/2005/08/ten-things-that-will-be-free/#comment-19017 Mon, 08 Aug 2005 09:42:31 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/08/ten_things_that_will_be_free.html#comment-19017 To me, what badly needs to be free is the content of policies.

See http://www.theyworkforyou.com/ for an example of openly analysing government debate and performance (UK Parliament).

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By: Ray Lawton http://www.lessig.org/2005/08/ten-things-that-will-be-free/#comment-19016 Sun, 07 Aug 2005 23:38:00 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/08/ten_things_that_will_be_free.html#comment-19016 Language will be free. Free meaning more directly consensually-defined, computer-understood and translated.

Art will be free. Art will be created on a massive, distributed scale. What does this mean and how will it happen? I’m not sure, but it feel inevitable. Think of 100 years spent constructing a cathedral, now apply that to the tech world. What could be done here?

People will be free. In other words, governments will go open source and open boundary. Not in my lifetime, but it will happen if Earth goes on spinning. Think a working U.N.

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By: Sebastien http://www.lessig.org/2005/08/ten-things-that-will-be-free/#comment-19015 Sat, 06 Aug 2005 01:15:56 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/08/ten_things_that_will_be_free.html#comment-19015 I understand the world “free” in this context means “the minimum possible restriction to anybody to use their material and immaterial resources for the benefit of the global community, and the unlimited access of anyone to the outcome of such a contribution”.

To me, what badly needs to be free is the content of policies.

To achieve this, one way is to open the definition of political parties. Platforms of political parties should be freely and democratically build up by all party members in a collaborative way inspired by the open source communities. Propositions would be freely made and discussed in online workshops. A team of 2 or three people (comprising one of the most active contributors to the workshop) would work out a synthesis, then submit it to online public vote. Vote will be conditionned to proper identification to avoid spoiling by militants from opposing parties, prankers or members trying to cheat.

There’s a huge demand for people to get more involved in politics, but in a new, flexible, intelligent way. Democracy is yet to be built.

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By: emily. http://www.lessig.org/2005/08/ten-things-that-will-be-free/#comment-19014 Fri, 05 Aug 2005 19:02:51 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/08/ten_things_that_will_be_free.html#comment-19014 In regards to art history, beginning students don’t need anything much bigger than screen-sized resolution so we can see the composition, colors, and such. A few detail pictures are handy for looking at artist techniques, like glazes and such used by painters and the detail of things like Medieval Celtic jewelry.

In terms of art history, I’m unconcerned with pictures big enough to use to create new digital artwork. Students should have access to look at works of art without onerous expense. I’m okay with a small fee to cover hosting costs and such. Since we have a great tool like the internet, why can’t the great museums and works of art in the world come to us, rather than us having to go to them just to see what they have. (I do know that seeing a work in person is so much better, but I can’t afford to go see every museum in Europe or even the U.S.)

But all I want to do is look at art work. I don’t need copies (except for maybe flashcards so I can study for the identification portion of our tests). If I’m inspired by an artwork I can create something referencing it if I look at it only once. A high-res copy truly isn’t necessary.

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By: Maria http://www.lessig.org/2005/08/ten-things-that-will-be-free/#comment-19013 Fri, 05 Aug 2005 13:55:46 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/08/ten_things_that_will_be_free.html#comment-19013 Right now I am in Venezuela, I just got a labtop and it has a wireless conection, in this moment I´m connected for “free” and looking to your debate here. Internet is deffinitivly a big promess, even thoug in my country not every one has acces to internet, I don´t know about the percentage, is becoming more popular and gives the people the oportynity to choose what to read, what to listen and what to see, besides makes it possible to blur the line between spectator and creator. If internet waves are now (in some places) flying in the air, it is not that hard to expand this possibility and catch this waves for free, I think internet should be and will be free.

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By: Melanie McBride http://www.lessig.org/2005/08/ten-things-that-will-be-free/#comment-19012 Fri, 05 Aug 2005 13:48:17 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/08/ten_things_that_will_be_free.html#comment-19012 Things that should be free:

1) Water, forests and wildlife (AKA natural “resources”)
2) Speech, information and expression
3) Public space – parks, streets etc free of advertising and private/corporate ownership/control

Things that will be free:

Dystopian/if the right have their way …
1) markets
2) corporations
3) the wealthy and/or powerful

Utopian/if we fight for our rights …
1) healthcare, education and other basic public services (some of this is already free here in Canada – but that’s changing)
2) communication and media
3) public and natural environments (i.e., free of surveillance, advertising, corporate control and exploitation)

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By: Tere http://www.lessig.org/2005/08/ten-things-that-will-be-free/#comment-19011 Fri, 05 Aug 2005 13:17:57 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/08/ten_things_that_will_be_free.html#comment-19011 What about sheet music? There’s a clearly defined goal (like in encyclopedia and curricula, to some extent) and semi-objective ways of defining which of two versions is the better.

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By: Peter Suber http://www.lessig.org/2005/08/ten-things-that-will-be-free/#comment-19010 Fri, 05 Aug 2005 13:03:35 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/08/ten_things_that_will_be_free.html#comment-19010 Scientific and scholarly research literature will be free or open access. A growing portion of it already is. The main reason is that scholars are not paid for their journal articles and haven’t been since the birth of scientific journals in 1665. They can consent to open access without losing revenue, unlike most musicians and moviemakers. Another reason is that most scientific literature is publicly funded, and there is a growing demand for public access to publicly-funded research.

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By: Will http://www.lessig.org/2005/08/ten-things-that-will-be-free/#comment-19009 Fri, 05 Aug 2005 11:57:41 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/08/ten_things_that_will_be_free.html#comment-19009 Entertainment:
The tools are being developed that will enable massively decentralized large-scale collaborative projects such as: computer games (from FPSs to online worlds) to movies to symphonies. For example:
I foresee future block-buster movies being made by an online community in wiki-style. The ubiquity of high-power video editing and creation tools will be the enabling technology. As the power and ease-of-use of such tools improve, an online community will be able to cast,shoot,edit,add VFX, etc. in a decentralized way. Once every scene in the (collaboratively written) script has been shot (on hi-res/low cost d-cams) by several different teams the community will cooperatively choose the best particular combination of scenes, then several different stylistic edits and vfx packagings will be proposed and the community will choose the best etc.

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By: Rochelle http://www.lessig.org/2005/08/ten-things-that-will-be-free/#comment-19008 Fri, 05 Aug 2005 11:32:44 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/08/ten_things_that_will_be_free.html#comment-19008 I hope that all academic work published in serials will be free in the future. Academics get paid by the universities to produce scholarship, and the universities then have to pay third party distrubutors to get access to that scholarship. Why? For the amount universities pay the distributors, they could be managing the publication and distribution of academic resources themselves. Everyone should have access to that information.

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By: Mario http://www.lessig.org/2005/08/ten-things-that-will-be-free/#comment-19007 Fri, 05 Aug 2005 10:51:38 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/08/ten_things_that_will_be_free.html#comment-19007 Kids that want fun will be free and weather reports from each single place

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By: Phil Mitchell http://www.lessig.org/2005/08/ten-things-that-will-be-free/#comment-19006 Fri, 05 Aug 2005 10:03:15 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/08/ten_things_that_will_be_free.html#comment-19006 Free the Supply Chain!

Transparency and community sharing of knowledge must be brought to bear on the hidden consequences of our daily economic transactions. Exactly what are you supporting when you buy a shirt sewn in Malaysia or conventionally-grown bananas from Honduras? This is arguably the most important freedom of all, since without it we will not succeed in making the transition to sustainability.

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By: Joseph Pietro Riolo http://www.lessig.org/2005/08/ten-things-that-will-be-free/#comment-19005 Fri, 05 Aug 2005 08:51:33 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/08/ten_things_that_will_be_free.html#comment-19005 To emily:

The copyright statement that you see on the pictures
is placed on them out of a bad habit or out of
photographers’ greed. Although the U.S. copyright
law has a section that forbids the fraudulent use
of copyright notice, it is never enforced.

Not all pictures of old materials are in the public
domain. Sometimes, photographers change the color
or perspective for artistic purpose. In this
case, they can claim copyright over large area of
picture. But if they attempt to copy the old
materials as exactly as they can, their copyright
in such picture will be very thin or non-existent.

Now that you mentioned museums, I want to want to
add one more thing that you should be aware of.
These museums use a legal instrument known as
license where they can control the uses of the
old materials. The license can override the
U.S. copyright law although not all legal scholars
agree with it. So, even if an old painting is
entirely in the public domain, museums can create
licenses with people where they can prevent them from
making more copies. But, license is not without
limit. It is only valid between parties that agree
to terms and conditions. People who are not party
to license have no obligation to abide by the terms
and conditions.

This is the same legal instrument that Wikimedia Commons
uses. You have to read the license to determine if
the uses of an image of old material are limited in
any way even if that old material is in the public
domain. Just be careful with the materials in
Wikimedia Commons.

Joseph Pietro Riolo
<riolo@voicenet.com>

Public domain notice: I put all of my expressions in this
comment in the public domain.

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By: Rob Myers http://www.lessig.org/2005/08/ten-things-that-will-be-free/#comment-19004 Fri, 05 Aug 2005 08:10:11 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/08/ten_things_that_will_be_free.html#comment-19004 Wikimedia Commons [...] is nowhere near what it would need to be to be used for an art history course, for example. Honestly, poster sites are more useful for getting the famous images from art history. It’s a start, though.

There are non-commercial repositories of art-historical images on the net, but they are all non-free, having weird access terms similar to those imposed on public domain work on CD ROMs. Possibly we could work to encourage some of them to open up, e.g.artchive (Note to monetarists: “encourage” includes “pay”. It worked for Blender.)

The American Library of Congress has some public domain art images, but not many international ones.

Possibly a free index of free images, making projects like Wikimedia and LoC more accessible, would be a good step.

But for contemporary art we still hit living copyright (unlike many of the artists whose work is now copyrighted).

If Wikimedia could dispatch photographers to the galleries of the world and get them to upload their pictures it would be a start.

This worked for Dorling Kidersley allegedly, but I cannot see the galleries doing this in the current environment. Would an archive.org/Prelinger-style deal on low-resolution images being free (and high-resolution being chargeable) be acceptable for art history? For me it wouldn’t be acceptable for making new art.

Unfortunately, many museums forbid photography, even without flash. Stupidly many of those institutions also forbid sketching (a time-honored art student learning tool).

Yes. As an artist and ex- art student, finding art being locked away in this manner was the last straw for me. For those of you who know Stallman’s story, this was my “printer driver moment”. :-)

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By: emily. http://www.lessig.org/2005/08/ten-things-that-will-be-free/#comment-19003 Fri, 05 Aug 2005 05:02:36 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/08/ten_things_that_will_be_free.html#comment-19003 Joseph: thank you for the clarification of copyright law. What about the decent pictures of the newly cleaned Sistine Chapel? All of the pictures I’ve seen were taken by the camera crew that documented the cleaning and they have huge “copyright by ….” messages in the corners, even in Gardner’s (which is the Art History textbook required at my school). Amateur pictures of the Sistine Chapel are not good enough for study, and those copyright notices are intimidating.

Rob: thanks for the link to Wikimedia Commons. Unfortunately it is nowhere near what it would need to be to be used for an art history course, for example. Honestly, poster sites are more useful for getting the famous images from art history. It’s a start, though. If Wikimedia could dispatch photographers to the galleries of the world and get them to upload their pictures it would be a start. Unfortunately, many museums forbid photography, even without flash. Stupidly many of those institutions also forbid sketching (a time-honored art student learning tool).

A Wiki art history would be so useful. Art history textbooks are so expensive and the publishers make them obsolete in less than 2 years by publishing new editions with changes major enough to change the page numbers. This happened to me with Gardner’s Art Through the Ages textbook.

Iowa State University has a system where all their slides are online, but they are only accessible by ISU students and the department had to get a special grant to license the images, even those without new artistic content that it seems Joseph’s comment would apply to. And the way students use the pictures would count as fair use even.

I may have strayed from the subject a bit, but I think this is an example of a need that could be filled.

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By: Josh Cogliati http://www.lessig.org/2005/08/ten-things-that-will-be-free/#comment-19002 Fri, 05 Aug 2005 01:46:18 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/08/ten_things_that_will_be_free.html#comment-19002 The 1998 copyright extension was the last. Look at how positively the 1976 copyright extension act was looked at compared to the 1998 one, and compare that to the defeat of Eldred vs Ashcroft. Each time, more and more people care about the copyright. The media companies may try again, but they will never succeed at extending copyright again.

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By: Joseph Pietro Riolo http://www.lessig.org/2005/08/ten-things-that-will-be-free/#comment-19001 Thu, 04 Aug 2005 22:37:06 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/08/ten_things_that_will_be_free.html#comment-19001 To emily:

Your statement saying that the pictures of the
Lascaux cave paintings are copyrighted is not
correct. I am assuming that you are talking
about the U.S. copyright law. In the U.S.
copyright law, copyright can only cover the
the new creative expressions and does not extend
to anything inside the picture that is not created
by the photographer or artist. So, not everything
in the pictures of the Lascaux cave paintings
is covered by copyright. If the picture that
you are holding contains some new creative
expressions, you can just cut them out and what
remains is in the public domain.

Joseph Pietro Riolo
<riolo@voicenet.com>

Public domain notice: I put all of my expressions in this
comment in the public domain.

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