Comments on: Comments to the CO http://www.lessig.org/2005/03/comments-to-the-co/ Blog, news, books Thu, 12 Oct 2017 08:56:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.8.2 By: Frederick http://www.lessig.org/2005/03/comments-to-the-co/#comment-38744 Tue, 30 Apr 2013 06:32:30 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/03/comments_to_the_co.html#comment-38744 Enjoy your blog )
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By: Branko Collin http://www.lessig.org/2005/03/comments-to-the-co/#comment-20542 Tue, 12 Apr 2005 22:19:37 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/03/comments_to_the_co.html#comment-20542 According to an article in Wired, the Copyright Office is now solliciting replies to the comments. Deadline is May 9.

BTW, your blog software seems broken. Regardless of whether I select “Remember Me” or not, I always need to fill out my data again. And when I use Preview, the word “human” is lost and needs to be retyped.

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By: Joseph Pietro Riolo http://www.lessig.org/2005/03/comments-to-the-co/#comment-20541 Thu, 07 Apr 2005 06:37:19 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/03/comments_to_the_co.html#comment-20541 To Branko,

Comments do not have to be limited to the actual
examples of orphan works. I never encounter an
orphan work but that does not mean that it does
not exist (“absence of evidence is not evidence of
absence”) and that I can’t submit my comment.
Not all questions as posed in the Federal Register
are related to the actual examples of orphan works.
Some questions are related to laws and treaties
themselves.

After the reply period is over, I am sure that
the Copyright Office will analyze comments,
categorize them, and record them for future
reference. In light of that, it is important
to counter some comments made by totally
self-serving authors and artists who claim that
there is no such thing called orphan works and
that even if they exist, that’s too bad for the
public (“damn the public”).

Joseph Pietro Riolo
<riolo@voicenet.com>

Public domain notice: I put all of my expressions in this
comment in the public domain.

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By: Branko Collin http://www.lessig.org/2005/03/comments-to-the-co/#comment-20540 Wed, 06 Apr 2005 11:51:18 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/03/comments_to_the_co.html#comment-20540 I’ve been thinking of writing up some analyses and abstracts, but I am put off by the sheer number of comments.

The three or four I read failed to point to any real-life examples of orphan works, which made it hard to put the proposals in a context. For instance, ASCAP says it cannot imagine orphaned musical performances. If that’s true, then why did they enter a comment?

Microsoft can imagine orphaned works, and provides a well thought out proposal of how to deal with orphaned works, but as other commenters fails to ground it in real-life examples, so that we are left guessing what these orphan works are.

(I did not read these comments whole, so I may have missed the examples I ask for.)

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By: joe http://www.lessig.org/2005/03/comments-to-the-co/#comment-20539 Fri, 01 Apr 2005 22:41:45 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/03/comments_to_the_co.html#comment-20539 Just an FYI, the comments are now properly redacted. 2005-04-01 17:39:37 PST

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By: hungerburg http://www.lessig.org/2005/03/comments-to-the-co/#comment-20538 Thu, 31 Mar 2005 16:15:41 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/03/comments_to_the_co.html#comment-20538 I did a cursory view: how about counting the different “arts” first: most comments seem to be about photographs, with literature second. others dont mention any works at all, just recommend some practice.

the ASCAP comment is typically for a self serving organizational “lets build a wall” point of view – I’m sure, ASCAP will gladly sell STM a licence for public performance of all these orphaned works, and in the fine print will disclaim ANY liabilities for their “100% 80 countries coverage”.

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By: joe http://www.lessig.org/2005/03/comments-to-the-co/#comment-20537 Wed, 30 Mar 2005 22:05:44 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/03/comments_to_the_co.html#comment-20537 Yup. I’ve confirmed it with the “extract text” function of gsview. Everyone who submitted comments via the orphan works site has there personal information in their PDFs… and tools like gsview can be used to extract this information. That’s a hell of a lot of personal information.

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By: joe http://www.lessig.org/2005/03/comments-to-the-co/#comment-20536 Wed, 30 Mar 2005 21:00:55 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/03/comments_to_the_co.html#comment-20536 Actually, Joe Gratz just pointed out the probable reason that the PDFs (of email comments) are locked… personal information in these comments has been obscured with white opaque boxes. Presumably they just went through and obscured the personal information and then locked the PDFs so that viewers can’t unobscure this information.

So, I’d be interested to see if using the xpdf / gsview method will allow access to the obscured personal information.

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By: Alan De Smet http://www.lessig.org/2005/03/comments-to-the-co/#comment-20535 Wed, 30 Mar 2005 16:58:22 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/03/comments_to_the_co.html#comment-20535 Good catch, Branko. Using gsview to view the PDF, just select Edit > Text Extract… and you’ll get the plain text to the message. This only works for the email submissions since the paper versions don’t really have “text” . The gsview package appears to contain “pstotext” which does this on the command line quite handily.

As I predicted, this easily extracts the email headers and other redacted information. Sloppy. Ah, well.

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By: Alan De Smet http://www.lessig.org/2005/03/comments-to-the-co/#comment-20534 Wed, 30 Mar 2005 16:45:56 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/03/comments_to_the_co.html#comment-20534 I don’t think we’re looking at intentional lockdown on the PDFs; I think we’re looking at a quick and dirty conversion to PDF. Some of the comments clearly arrived on paper and were scanned to PDF (for example Microsoft’s) The result has no text at all, just images of text. You can do OCR to add normal text, but it’s error prone and (perhaps more importantly) costs extra money.

Now the email submissions (typically in courier) are searchable. One could in theory do copy and paste, but I believe the default is to disable that functionality. The person who did the work either didn’t know about the option, or didn’t care.

I’m guessing someone was told “Make all of these available online in the exact same format.” PDF is a reasonable compromise (not my favorite, but *eh*). The person doing the work chose the simplest, cheapest option. As a result: no cutting and pasting. I don’t fault them for it.

Interestingly, while loading one of the email message I discovered something interesting: the headers (From, To, Subject) briefly appeared, then disappeared. It appears that the “redacting” they mention rather naive: they just put a white block over it. However the text is still present in the file. Anyone with enough technical skill could easily extract the information. Sloppy. There have been cases where important Secret information was accidentally leaked this way.

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By: Branko Collin http://www.lessig.org/2005/03/comments-to-the-co/#comment-20533 Wed, 30 Mar 2005 16:40:22 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/03/comments_to_the_co.html#comment-20533 I find that after you’ve used the text extract function in gsview, you can select and copy the text.

(Of course, once you have extracted the text, the need to select and copy it from the PDF viewer has diminished.)

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By: joe http://www.lessig.org/2005/03/comments-to-the-co/#comment-20532 Wed, 30 Mar 2005 15:53:52 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/03/comments_to_the_co.html#comment-20532 Unfortunately, all the PDFs are locked such that you can’t copy and paste text out of them. This might make a collaborative analysis a bit harder… I wonder why they chose to do that? A tad copyright-paranoid maybe?

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