Comments on: different worlds http://www.lessig.org/2005/01/different-worlds/ Blog, news, books Thu, 12 Oct 2017 08:56:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.8.2 By: bern de galvez http://www.lessig.org/2005/01/different-worlds/#comment-21254 Wed, 09 Feb 2005 10:05:52 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/01/different_worlds.html#comment-21254 Gag me.

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By: Why http://www.lessig.org/2005/01/different-worlds/#comment-21253 Wed, 09 Feb 2005 04:45:45 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/01/different_worlds.html#comment-21253 Wow. You sure seem naive about Brazil. One meeting where someone didn’t get killed, and the place is sliced bread.

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By: Peter Burgess http://www.lessig.org/2005/01/different-worlds/#comment-21252 Mon, 07 Feb 2005 02:33:21 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/01/different_worlds.html#comment-21252 The feedback from the WSF is extremely encouraging … but the financial muscle and power still sits in Davos … hidden behind PR and press releases. I am engaged with an emerging transparency and accountability network (Tr-Ac-Net) that aims to make excellence in transparency and accountability the norm rather than the exception. It is much more about leadership and commitment than anything else, and since big organizations do not seem to want to do it, then it will have to be us.

Peter Burgess
Tr-Ac-Net in New York

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By: leo prieto http://www.lessig.org/2005/01/different-worlds/#comment-21251 Tue, 01 Feb 2005 12:04:56 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/01/different_worlds.html#comment-21251 So close and yet so far away. In Chile we are trying hard to fight for the freedom of information, software and music. But when you have the “Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation” donating millions in (trojan) Windows PCs to schools here, it gets harder ever day. We need a Gilberto!

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By: Max Lybbert http://www.lessig.org/2005/01/different-worlds/#comment-21250 Mon, 31 Jan 2005 22:33:51 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/01/different_worlds.html#comment-21250 I just remembered; once upon a time I wanted to create a small online magazine about Brazil (Terra Adorada, from the national anthem), but I wanted to understand Brazilian copyright. Just like everything else Brazilian, it was interesting.

(1) There are certain “creator’s rights” that cannot be sold or transferred, no matter what the contract says. These rights work like a certain Trademark, and allow the creator the ability to keep work from being used in disagreeable contexts.

(2) There is a special area for “works for hire,” but no section defines how such a work is created. All work (by default) is supposed to be copyright the original creator.

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By: Paul Huff http://www.lessig.org/2005/01/different-worlds/#comment-21249 Mon, 31 Jan 2005 14:30:02 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/01/different_worlds.html#comment-21249 I’ve been a Gilberto Gil fan for a long time. I’d heard conflicting reports about his government connections though, although most of the Brazillian wannabes in the United States I know thought it was pretty cool that he could be the Minister of Culture… Thanks, Mr. Lessig, for reporting on this interchange. It’s confirmed what I’d already suspected: Gilberto Gil is a very down-to-earth, good person. Kudos!

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By: oliver http://www.lessig.org/2005/01/different-worlds/#comment-21248 Sun, 30 Jan 2005 21:30:53 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/01/different_worlds.html#comment-21248 Wow.

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By: Rik Panganiban http://www.lessig.org/2005/01/different-worlds/#comment-21247 Sun, 30 Jan 2005 12:44:35 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/01/different_worlds.html#comment-21247 Thanks Dr. Lessig for this great story. I am currently at the WSF and blogging at http://rikomatic.objectis.net/news . I wish I could have been at that meeting, which sounded incredible. All the meetings are incredible, its a progressive political activists dream here.

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By: Ted Nugent http://www.lessig.org/2005/01/different-worlds/#comment-21246 Sat, 29 Jan 2005 19:50:21 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/01/different_worlds.html#comment-21246 Hey y’all, ted nugent here. Im for all sorts of things that help little dark skinned people around the world who live in huts and have cows and stuff. For instance, I would be willing to sail around south america on a boat full of young college girls and ‘help’ people. Or, we could have a rock concert and my accountants can get NGOs to pay for free publicity- we will call it “Brazil Aid”, or, “Hand Across Brazil”. It will be rad. I will make sure that all the proper feminist groups are represented as well, as if and when the brazilians are freed, the men will start behaving differently. I love helping poor people, and I love helping naive young college chicks.

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By: RabbleRouser http://www.lessig.org/2005/01/different-worlds/#comment-21245 Sat, 29 Jan 2005 19:26:41 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/01/different_worlds.html#comment-21245 Photos of lessig from some of the other people there and a video, and an article about the discussion (in spanish)

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By: Dav http://www.lessig.org/2005/01/different-worlds/#comment-21244 Sat, 29 Jan 2005 19:15:07 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/01/different_worlds.html#comment-21244 thanks rabble!

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By: rabble http://www.lessig.org/2005/01/different-worlds/#comment-21243 Sat, 29 Jan 2005 17:52:47 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/01/different_worlds.html#comment-21243 The reason the activists have been arguing with Gil is that the Brazilian government under Lula has been very active in shutting down unlicensed radio stations. More active than the previous governments even.

Brazil’s policies about free software and intellectual property are very good, but it’s policy on radio is bad. There were over 8000 community radio stations in brazil before Lula took power. Since then a very large number of them which don’t have offical licenses from the brazilian FCC have been shutdown.

Gil is not directly responsible for the shutdown of the radio stations. So it was very good of him to engage in a real debate, and talk to people. Not all ministers in brazil are so open.

The free radio movement uses free software and promotes it. But they also broadcast on to the air so their community members can have a voice. I recommend checking out their website, http://radiolivre.org/

You can find more information about the visit, mostly in portuese, at http://brasil.indymedia.org/ one of the groups putting together the media lab. The space has a website: http://www.taina.org.br/lab/ which i encourage everybody to check out.

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By: robert neuwirth http://www.lessig.org/2005/01/different-worlds/#comment-21242 Sat, 29 Jan 2005 13:18:16 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/01/different_worlds.html#comment-21242 I don’t want to bash the World Social Forum, which is always inspirational. But it’s also a rarified and elite gathering. I’m a writer who spent much of the past three years living in squatter communities in the developing world (my book on these amazingly vibrant but misunderstood communities has just been released by Routledge.) I spent three months in Rocinha, the largest and most urbanized favela in Rio de Janeiro. I’d like to see the WSF get more directly involved with people in the poor communities that are battling for social change in modest, non-ideological ways every day. What’s more, though there’s much to applaud about politics in Brazil, it can also be horribly top-down and clientelist. Lula’s government, though much more participatory than Fernando Henrique Cardozo’s, has not pushed forward on land reform and other issues of huge concern to the poor.

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By: Alex Steffen http://www.lessig.org/2005/01/different-worlds/#comment-21241 Sat, 29 Jan 2005 03:02:35 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/01/different_worlds.html#comment-21241 What’s going on in Brazil is so extraordinary. This is what the 21st Century looks like.

I’ll be down there in April to check all this out, but I’m envious of the wonderful experience you’re having now.

We’ve been blogging a lot about Brazil. You might find some of it interesting, when you have a chance to look. Here’s the latest:

http://www.worldchanging.com/archives/002015.html

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By: Kien http://www.lessig.org/2005/01/different-worlds/#comment-21240 Sat, 29 Jan 2005 00:20:07 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/01/different_worlds.html#comment-21240 Professor,

I’m rather surprised that you refer to our form of government as a democracy. I don’t believe the word “democracy” exists in the constitution and if memory serves, the Greek concept was specifically rejected in the Federalist papers.

While it’s something I’ve had to learn on my own (Ms. Bryant, my poli-sci teacher was too hung up upon the proper spelling of “separate” to be of any use), I’ve always considered our form of government to be a republic…not a democracy.

Please correct me if I’m wrong.

–K.

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By: Max Lybbert http://www.lessig.org/2005/01/different-worlds/#comment-21239 Fri, 28 Jan 2005 22:58:08 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/01/different_worlds.html#comment-21239 I have to admit that I always liked the energy Brazilians have when speaking publicly. I can’t think of any real US comparison — it’s not a Southern Preacher, nor is it a Holy Roller (although they have those, too), it’s just a very energetic and upbeat manner.

Brazil has a long history of going against the grain politically, and I mean that in both good and bad ways. The country’s political campaign would make any US citizen think of voter fraud (incumbents get a fund that they can use to buy things for constituents, and visit neighborhoods ready to distribute the wealth), but the country was one of the first South American countries to stand up to the US in the UN. It also has a long tradition of not extraditing political “criminals,” whether they are women who don’t want to undergo genital mutilation or Nazis fleeing Germany during the Second World War.

On the whole, although the country is far left of me, I have to agree that I like it.

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By: Rob http://www.lessig.org/2005/01/different-worlds/#comment-21238 Fri, 28 Jan 2005 19:32:15 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/01/different_worlds.html#comment-21238 So, all we need is for Ted Nugent or Justin Timberlake (or Britney Spears?) to get appointed to be a Cabinet secretary. I can imagine the Nuge being Secretary of Defense. Heh.

I think it’s great what happened there in Brazil. Here I imagine our government officials would be too afraid of being blown away by some nutjob with a .38 and an axe to grind to make such an appearance.

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By: ricardo galli http://www.lessig.org/2005/01/different-worlds/#comment-21237 Fri, 28 Jan 2005 18:53:44 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/01/different_worlds.html#comment-21237 Some photographs of you an J.P. Barlow during a free software conference in Porto Alegre:
mnm.uib.es/gallir/fotos/2005-01-PortoAlegre4/

PS: it seems I forgot to post my previous comment. It just said we flew from Balearic Islands to Porto Alegre almost exclusively to listen to you :-)

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By: Alex Sandifer http://www.lessig.org/2005/01/different-worlds/#comment-21236 Fri, 28 Jan 2005 18:53:36 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/01/different_worlds.html#comment-21236 Thank you. This gives me hope. Democracy is not dead.

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By: Omar Kaminski http://www.lessig.org/2005/01/different-worlds/#comment-21235 Fri, 28 Jan 2005 18:20:27 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/01/different_worlds.html#comment-21235 Lessig, thanks for your sincere and sensitive point of view about Brazil. You’re the most brazilian of north american’s jurists.

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By: Paul Gowder http://www.lessig.org/2005/01/different-worlds/#comment-21234 Fri, 28 Jan 2005 14:06:27 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/01/different_worlds.html#comment-21234 I don’t know whether this is joyful (that democracy still lives somewhere) or sad (that we’ve moved so far from it here). Alas.

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By: Dav http://www.lessig.org/2005/01/different-worlds/#comment-21233 Fri, 28 Jan 2005 13:32:37 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/01/different_worlds.html#comment-21233 I’m a little confused, were the kids arguing for free radio, and Gil was arguing against? That seems unlikely, but so does the reverse.

As a free culture, free software enthusiast who is moving to Brazil in a week, I guess I’ll figure it out soon enough though…

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By: Cesar Cardoso http://www.lessig.org/2005/01/different-worlds/#comment-21232 Fri, 28 Jan 2005 13:30:25 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/01/different_worlds.html#comment-21232 Sure there’s a lot to improve on freedom of speech here in Brazil – media is largely unregulated and monopolized by a very very few large megagroups (the biggest of them all the infamed Globo), there’s no legal protection to free and community radio etc etc etc.

But it’s always good to read things like this. Makes us feel better and fight for more freedom. Way to go!

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By: brazilian free citizen http://www.lessig.org/2005/01/different-worlds/#comment-21231 Fri, 28 Jan 2005 12:54:33 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/01/different_worlds.html#comment-21231 Sure freedom these days includes transfering files…although some are not transfered to the right targets… like in USA, for exemple, where media manipulates citizenship and frightens citizens, impelling them to vote in one of the apocallypsis beast…
… and please, Mr. Lessig, Gilberto Gil is a Popular Brazilian Music Star… one of our biggest ones, thanks God! and this means, for us, he’s much more considerable than ANY rockstar in the world…
Mr. Loughborough, good luck in the bible business…
best wishes

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By: Uir� http://www.lessig.org/2005/01/different-worlds/#comment-21230 Fri, 28 Jan 2005 12:42:28 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2005/01/different_worlds.html#comment-21230 “There is no distance. There is no “free speech zone.” Or rather, Brazil is the free speech zone. Gil practices zone rules.”

Very obliged therefore… I feel myself happyer for being Brazilian… debtor!

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