Comments on: “exaggerations” http://www.lessig.org/2004/10/exaggerations/ Blog, news, books Sat, 14 Oct 2017 12:41:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.8.2 By: Nate http://www.lessig.org/2004/10/exaggerations/#comment-22763 Sat, 16 Oct 2004 12:28:01 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/10/exaggerations.html#comment-22763 Fair enough, but one key difference is that Michael Moore doesn’t control the military, but Bush does. One would hope the leader of the free world, and the man who controls more weapons of mass destruction than anyone else, would be able to keep something as important as this straight. My personal opinion is that in that press Q&A where he said that about Osama, he was annoyed at being asked the question and so said something throwaway to make his lack of finding Osama palatable. This is the guy who can never admit a mistake, after all, so there had to be some other explanation for his failure. Lack of interest since he’s no longer a threat? Sounds good to him.

Now during the debate it comes up in a way that makes him look bad to Middle America. Can’t have that, Mr. I Don’t Recall Mistakes, so he quickly denies ever saying it, figuring his team can drown out most news coverage of his gaffe. Bingo: Mary Cheney.

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By: Max Lybbert http://www.lessig.org/2004/10/exaggerations/#comment-22762 Sat, 16 Oct 2004 02:42:02 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/10/exaggerations.html#comment-22762 I’m not saying that it looks good, or can be spun to look good. I’m saying that it is entirely possible Bush didn’t remember saying that (although the beginning of it is in Fahranheit 9/11).

The channel I saw the debate on had the footage ready to play before the last question was asked. I doubt that he would have intentionally lied, knowing that if such fiitage existed, it would be played and replayed.

In the same vein, Michael Moore says he doesn’t remember downplaying the 9/11 attacks shortly after they happened, and it’s entirely possible he doesn’t rememver it. However, there is footage (in Fahranhype 9/11) of him downplaying the “terrorist threat” in clear reference to 9/11 (although at a later event).

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By: Nate http://www.lessig.org/2004/10/exaggerations/#comment-22761 Fri, 15 Oct 2004 23:39:20 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/10/exaggerations.html#comment-22761 Sorry, Max, it looks bad for Bush. I read the whole quote before you posted it. Doesn’t make it any better. Even on the run, bin Laden should have been target #1. Bush promised he can’t hide. Bush promised Dead or Alive. Then he turns around and says, oh well, he’s on the run so I’m not that concerned about him any more. Then he denies saying it in front of America.

There is no possible good spin on that.

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By: William Loughborough http://www.lessig.org/2004/10/exaggerations/#comment-22760 Fri, 15 Oct 2004 19:51:16 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/10/exaggerations.html#comment-22760 Won’t it be great when “debates” like these parodies thereof can make use of Semantic Web facilities to allow the participants to instantly play back things like this. Hyperlinks in real time so that who said what, when, where are ready for instant replay.

Love.

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By: Max Lybbert http://www.lessig.org/2004/10/exaggerations/#comment-22759 Fri, 15 Oct 2004 12:12:32 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/10/exaggerations.html#comment-22759 OK, to avoid confusion, perhaps I should say how I would archive the two quotes in my mind:

Kerry’s wording: I no longer care about Bin Laden, I’m after Saddam.

Original wording: We’re winning, so I’m not concerned.

So, if Bush were “looking” for the quote where it would be under Kerry’s wording, he wouldn’t have found it. This is how things slip our mind.

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By: Max Lybbert http://www.lessig.org/2004/10/exaggerations/#comment-22758 Fri, 15 Oct 2004 12:09:53 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/10/exaggerations.html#comment-22758 The exageration is what was left out (that is, why Bush wasn’t worried about Bin Laden):

I’ll repeat what I said. I truly am not that concerned about him. I know he is on the run. I was concerned about him, when he had taken over a country. I was concerned about the fact that he was basically running Afghanistan and calling the shots for the Taliban.

Unlike computers, people don’t archive ideas as a jumble of letters, words, etc. Instead, we archive ideas as a complete whole. Since the these qualifiers make the quote very different from “I don’t really think about him very much. I’m not that concerned,” I can understand why this slipped the President’s mind.

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By: Mojo http://www.lessig.org/2004/10/exaggerations/#comment-22757 Fri, 15 Oct 2004 02:32:48 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/10/exaggerations.html#comment-22757 You’re overlooking the positive side of this ad from the Bush perspective. It finally shows him winning a debate! Yep, Bush really kicked Bush’s patooty.

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By: Nancy http://www.lessig.org/2004/10/exaggerations/#comment-22756 Fri, 15 Oct 2004 01:00:17 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/10/exaggerations.html#comment-22756 Oh, he didn’t forget what he said. The man was outright lying to America, just like he’s been doing since he started campaigning the LAST time.
I can’t wait to see what kind of shenanigans Florida comes up with this time.
The Bush way… if you can’t win honestly, lie, cheat & steal the election!

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By: Nate http://www.lessig.org/2004/10/exaggerations/#comment-22755 Thu, 14 Oct 2004 23:28:12 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/10/exaggerations.html#comment-22755 This is a no-win for Bush. What are the possiblities here?

A) He genuinely forgot he said that about Osama, in which case you have to wonder how he can possibly be on the ball about target #1 in the war on “terror” if he cannot even keep straight what he thinks about target #1.

B) He knew what he said, hoped no one else would, and lied to America.

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By: joe http://www.lessig.org/2004/10/exaggerations/#comment-22754 Thu, 14 Oct 2004 17:24:36 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/10/exaggerations.html#comment-22754 in addition, I spent 8 of the worst years of my life growing up in Midland, Texas… and I can tell you right now that the only “mountains” in west Texas are the hills that make up a part of Big Bend natl. park… Bush has many delusions.

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