Comments on: Rumsfeld’s oath and the forgotten constitution http://www.lessig.org/2004/09/rumsfelds-oath-and-the-forgott/ Blog, news, books Thu, 12 Oct 2017 08:56:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.8.2 By: Jason Koulouras http://www.lessig.org/2004/09/rumsfelds-oath-and-the-forgott/#comment-23017 Sat, 02 Oct 2004 16:13:13 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/09/rumsfelds_oath_and_the_forgott.html#comment-23017 So much for separation of church and state

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By: Max Lybbert http://www.lessig.org/2004/09/rumsfelds-oath-and-the-forgott/#comment-23016 Fri, 01 Oct 2004 11:41:23 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/09/rumsfelds_oath_and_the_forgott.html#comment-23016 Uh, I’ll stop after this post. I went back to see who wrote that essay, and I’m not sure it’s meant to be tongue in cheek anymore. I took it as sarcasm, though.

Oh, and now that I think about it, North Carolina used to officially prohibit atheists and Catholics (and I assume Jews) from holding state office. And that was after the siging of the Constitution.

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By: Max Lybbert http://www.lessig.org/2004/09/rumsfelds-oath-and-the-forgott/#comment-23015 Fri, 01 Oct 2004 11:36:29 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/09/rumsfelds_oath_and_the_forgott.html#comment-23015 OK, fourt time’s a charm?

To Phillip, here’s a tongue-in-cheek essay claiming the legal profession has redefined “so help me God” to mean something entirely different from what you’d espect (like lawyers have done with several other words and phrases).

I think it comes from a time that people truly got scared when they swore to God.

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By: Max Lybbert http://www.lessig.org/2004/09/rumsfelds-oath-and-the-forgott/#comment-23014 Fri, 01 Oct 2004 11:21:52 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/09/rumsfelds_oath_and_the_forgott.html#comment-23014 Third time’s the charm, eh?

I figured the Constitution fell under “rules applicable to the review” and “all the duties incumbent upon … a member of the review panel.” I would prefer to see the Constitution explicitly mentioned. Even soldiers, who already swore loyalty to the Constitution, do it when they become officers.

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By: Max Lybbert http://www.lessig.org/2004/09/rumsfelds-oath-and-the-forgott/#comment-23013 Fri, 01 Oct 2004 01:10:06 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/09/rumsfelds_oath_and_the_forgott.html#comment-23013 For the record, I should worded the previous post “what does the usual oath for military judges say?”

And, for the record, I moved from California to North Carolina. Here (NC) it’s common for the company picnic, dinner or social activity to include a blessing on the food. Not all “red states” are like that, but I don’t think any of the blue states are (I know California isn’t).

I do wonder why Arkansas can’t have a monument to the Ten Commandments in its Supreme Court rotunda, but the US Supreme Court’s opening message ends “and God Save this Supreme Court.” I wonder if Arkansas would have been allowed to keep its monument if it were a part of a museum-like exhibit named “examples of ancient laws,” and placed next to other ancient laws (eg., Code of Hammurabi).

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By: Max Lybbert http://www.lessig.org/2004/09/rumsfelds-oath-and-the-forgott/#comment-23012 Thu, 30 Sep 2004 23:49:38 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/09/rumsfelds_oath_and_the_forgott.html#comment-23012 Just out of curiosity, what does the usual military justice oath say?

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By: ob1 http://www.lessig.org/2004/09/rumsfelds-oath-and-the-forgott/#comment-23011 Thu, 30 Sep 2004 23:32:43 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/09/rumsfelds_oath_and_the_forgott.html#comment-23011 and in the meantime, God gets bad press because of all the whackos wanting to add him into their equations… :-)

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By: Mojo http://www.lessig.org/2004/09/rumsfelds-oath-and-the-forgott/#comment-23010 Thu, 30 Sep 2004 20:03:56 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/09/rumsfelds_oath_and_the_forgott.html#comment-23010 So even the President can choose to affirm rather than swear during his inauguration but those who work for Rumsfeld darn well better swear to God? It’s amazing how modern conservatives know more about what the founders would have wanted than the founders did.

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By: M. Mortazavi http://www.lessig.org/2004/09/rumsfelds-oath-and-the-forgott/#comment-23009 Thu, 30 Sep 2004 18:47:07 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/09/rumsfelds_oath_and_the_forgott.html#comment-23009 The music is surprisingly good. Perhaps we need some more punk to unravel the mechanics of the mind. There are others who’re also innovating in lyrics and music but we rarely hear from them. Musical innovation certainly requires a great deal of re-mixing.

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By: Philip Brooks http://www.lessig.org/2004/09/rumsfelds-oath-and-the-forgott/#comment-23008 Thu, 30 Sep 2004 18:09:37 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/09/rumsfelds_oath_and_the_forgott.html#comment-23008 Locution, even.

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By: Philip Brooks http://www.lessig.org/2004/09/rumsfelds-oath-and-the-forgott/#comment-23007 Thu, 30 Sep 2004 18:06:13 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/09/rumsfelds_oath_and_the_forgott.html#comment-23007 What exactly does the location “so help you God” mean, anyway?

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