Comments on: Blog Book Club: A Promise re “Promises to Keep” http://www.lessig.org/2004/09/blog-book-club-a-promise-re-pr/ Blog, news, books Sat, 04 Feb 2017 16:33:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.8.2 By: raoul http://www.lessig.org/2004/09/blog-book-club-a-promise-re-pr/#comment-23031 Wed, 29 Sep 2004 23:50:33 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/09/blog_book_club_a_promise_re_pr.html#comment-23031 �creative destruction.� Can’t avoid it.

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By: Tim Keller http://www.lessig.org/2004/09/blog-book-club-a-promise-re-pr/#comment-23030 Wed, 29 Sep 2004 16:00:23 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/09/blog_book_club_a_promise_re_pr.html#comment-23030 The people who make the real change will be doing post-Napster file sharing that will be effective and probably undetectable.

Here’s the people who’ll make the real change: IPac, the Intellectual Property PAC.

Tim

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By: William Loughborough http://www.lessig.org/2004/09/blog-book-club-a-promise-re-pr/#comment-23029 Wed, 29 Sep 2004 12:47:32 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/09/blog_book_club_a_promise_re_pr.html#comment-23029 ” sounds like getting hit by a second, larger, and more devastating, meteor.”

And just about as likely. Proposals by academicians are most frequently blather of vanity. The people who make the real change will be doing post-Napster file sharing that will be effective and probably undetectable.

The old order crumbleth before the ingenuity of the “hackers for a creative commons”.

fuck a bunch of copyrights. We’re all in this together.

Love.

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By: three blind mice http://www.lessig.org/2004/09/blog-book-club-a-promise-re-pr/#comment-23028 Wed, 29 Sep 2004 07:43:07 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/09/blog_book_club_a_promise_re_pr.html#comment-23028 Representatives of the record companies and movie studios refer to the developes and users of the new technology as “thieves.” Consumers and their advocates increasingly describe the companies and studios as “greedy monopolists” and celebrate their impending extinction as a form of “creative destruction.”

impending extinction?

perhaps, but fisher’s apparent suggestion that the dinosaurs should be replaced by two-legged government bureaucrats doesn’t sound like evolution to us.

it sounds like getting hit by a second, larger, and more devastating, meteor.

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By: raoul http://www.lessig.org/2004/09/blog-book-club-a-promise-re-pr/#comment-23027 Sun, 26 Sep 2004 22:23:35 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/09/blog_book_club_a_promise_re_pr.html#comment-23027 What has to happen is the RIAA needs to be boycotted and the file sharering consumers need to be assisted with technology and legal defenses to the point where their numbers grow ten fold and put a real hurt on the majors.

It’s all out war and the RIAA and their ilk need to suffer.

The argument needs to be defined as Lessig being the moderate and the RIAA as being the radicals. That is accomplished by giving a louder voice to the consumers.

P2P networking is more like radio than record distribution.

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By: Tim Keller http://www.lessig.org/2004/09/blog-book-club-a-promise-re-pr/#comment-23026 Sun, 26 Sep 2004 20:26:04 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/09/blog_book_club_a_promise_re_pr.html#comment-23026 PTK’s Fatal Flaws

Many people and organizations would have to cooperate in order to implement any one of those proposals. The intensifying strife during the past dozen years between consumers, record and movie companies, technology manufacturers, and artists might suggest that such cooperation is unlikely. One characteristic shared by all three models, however, provides the basis for optimism. Under each one, almost everyone would fare better than under the current regime. If the representatives of each group of players could come to see that regimes beneficial to all parties are imaginable and feasible, we could work collectively to transform the world of recorded entertainment.

If all that was possible, we wouldn’t be where we are. As far as we’re concerned, the entertainment industry has a monopoly on power & fully excercizes it. What we need is not more “good ideas” that’ll only be ignored by those in power. What’s needed is better ways to organize ourselves so we can have more of a voice in the corridors & backrooms of power. Self organization, smart mobs, wise crowds, emergent democracy, network effects, transparent society, open source intelligence, whatever you want to call it – this is where our effort needs to be directed. Once we have the possibility of effecting change & not just shouting into the wind, then we can start to think about what changes we want to make. Until then it’s pretty much wasted effort.

Tim

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