Comments on: Mr. O’Reilly, please just stop. http://www.lessig.org/2004/07/mr-oreilly-please-just-stop/ Blog, news, books Thu, 12 Oct 2017 08:56:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.8.2 By: LYNN REEVES http://www.lessig.org/2004/07/mr-oreilly-please-just-stop/#comment-49178 Thu, 07 Jan 2016 09:59:00 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/07/mr_oreilly_please_just_stop.html#comment-49178 an extraordidddnary collection of stories from New Orleans. Most
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By: LYNN REEVES http://www.lessig.org/2004/07/mr-oreilly-please-just-stop/#comment-49175 Thu, 07 Jan 2016 09:58:00 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/07/mr_oreilly_please_just_stop.html#comment-49175 y. cdThe story is told by a group of paramedics at a convention in New
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By: sixpack shortcuts review honest http://www.lessig.org/2004/07/mr-oreilly-please-just-stop/#comment-46043 Mon, 10 Jun 2013 19:28:20 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/07/mr_oreilly_please_just_stop.html#comment-46043 Thnaks alot

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By: sixpack shortcuts review honest http://www.lessig.org/2004/07/mr-oreilly-please-just-stop/#comment-46042 Mon, 10 Jun 2013 19:27:08 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/07/mr_oreilly_please_just_stop.html#comment-46042 Is there an update to this?

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By: resul the bushkilla - still the same bushkilla http://www.lessig.org/2004/07/mr-oreilly-please-just-stop/#comment-4437 Fri, 14 Mar 2008 02:14:52 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/07/mr_oreilly_please_just_stop.html#comment-4437 @ this blogger/user – why you kill my comments???? this is my opinion about the 911 inside job – by the 3rd time, once again: ……..bush is wanted for high treason……..

here is my e-mail adress, take it, and say bush, how he can get me; if he had cojones, then lets fight, me vs. him (bush), all day, everytime…..i never knewed to fear, i dont scared of anybody; my respect is only for the one and only mighty ALLAH (r.a.), the creator of everything…..

tötet bush und alle republikaner weltweit, tötet zionisten und alle, die für bush und seine lügen sind, tötet rupert murdoch, tötet alle fox news moderatoren, tötet alle, die den weltfrieden gefährden…..

…..leute, lasst uns alle zusammenkommen, und weltweit, reiche (u.s.) republikaner ausfindig machen und eliminieren…..es gibt für sowas keine sünde von gott, denn wenn diese schweine tot sind, ist alles friedlich….

….lasst uns alle zionisten suchen und töten; ich rede hier zwar offen, dadrauf scheiss ich; denn wer will mir das verbieten; wenn ich einen einzigen wunsch habe, dann ist es diesert – ich will george w. bush herausfordern, ins sparing mit mir zu gehen, und sportlich und fair zu boxen…..ich würde ihm sein nasenbein in sein mickriges gehirn rammen; bei meiner ehre, ich würde es tun; aber bush ist ein schisser, der hurensohn ist eine ausgeburt der hölle…..seine mutter, sein vater, seine frau und seine kinder sollen alle sterben, getötet werden……..

…..scheiss auf diesen blogg und tötet bill o’reilly, alle fox news leute, alle republikaner weltweit, tötet rupert murdoch, diesen teufelsbastard aus den tiefsten tiefen der hölle……

….ich bin seit 1 jahr eine “geheime” organisation zu gründen, um meine/unsere ziele zu erfüllen; ich bin mir sicher, dass in einigen wenigen jahren die welt wieder uns, den ehrlichen leuten gehört, bzw. wir, die ehrlichen menschen werden als einzig der welt gehören, der rest muss eliminiert werden…..bald haben wir genug kraft gegen diese teufel……

…..an alle reichen islamischen länder (auch gute und ehrliche christliche länder) – haltet alle zusammen, hört auf für amerikaner und juden die hunde an der leine zu spielen…..der ganze öl-reichtum der erde gehört uns moslems, keinem feind, keinem amerikaner, keinem zionisten/juden, keinem rep. und keinem fed., ich bin türke, aber ich scheisse auf türkei, solange sie der nato angehört…….hört auf die westlichen spione und terroristen zu unterstützen, ihr dummen moslems……entweder seid ihr gegen das böse, oder ihr seid das böse, es gibt kein dazwischen – nimmt eure plätze jetzt schonmal ein……….macht alles, um diese schweine zu stürzen; tötet sie, lasst sie töten, verschleppt sie, foltert sie, erpresst sie (der wahrheit willen), zersetzt ihre leichen in säurebädern, lasst keinen entkommen…..

….ich freue mich auf zusammenarbeit….bitte meldet euch unter meiner e-mail adresse für kontakt:

grandorient13@yahoo.de

und nebenbei, warum streicht ihr nutten meine comments, habt ihr alle angst vor den bastarden wie bush, oder seid ihr bewusst auf der seite der lügen, auf der seite der korruption, auf der seite der mörder und terroristen???!!!???……..

…..mfg….an alle ehrlichen menschen weltweit, an alle moslems und an alle christen, entscheidet euch für das richtige……kämpft gegen alle, euch hassenden, verräterischen menschen…….selam kardeslerime……gruss an meine brüder und schwestern welweit….haltet alle zusammen……

…..by resul…..

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By: @#$&*%$ http://www.lessig.org/2004/07/mr-oreilly-please-just-stop/#comment-4436 Tue, 02 Oct 2007 23:36:53 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/07/mr_oreilly_please_just_stop.html#comment-4436 I just love watching “the loons” get absolutely unglued with Mr. O’Reilly’s remarks.

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By: Tom Wilson http://www.lessig.org/2004/07/mr-oreilly-please-just-stop/#comment-4435 Sat, 21 Oct 2006 07:02:23 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/07/mr_oreilly_please_just_stop.html#comment-4435 To bad GWB has the same IQ that a Organ Grinder and his Monkey has. GWB is not a “BAD” guy just a VERY Ignorant one. He’s the last guy on this Planet that should be running OUR Country!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Since you support him I must assume you are JUST AS IGNORANT AS HE! TOO BAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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By: mary http://www.lessig.org/2004/07/mr-oreilly-please-just-stop/#comment-4434 Mon, 12 Jun 2006 23:02:22 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/07/mr_oreilly_please_just_stop.html#comment-4434 Listen, you can attack Bush, O’reilly, or any other republican all you want, but lemme ask you something….are you really helping America? All anti bush activists should be ashamed of thereselves call the military terrorists its disgusting. Liberals should get their act together before critizing a man who wanted to fight terroism. So think before you talk

Mary

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By: Anonymous http://www.lessig.org/2004/07/mr-oreilly-please-just-stop/#comment-4433 Thu, 14 Oct 2004 21:22:06 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/07/mr_oreilly_please_just_stop.html#comment-4433 Think Bill O’reilly is bad? Check this out — John Kochensparger is personal friends of Virginia Senator George Allen, National Republican Senate Campaign Director Jay Timmons, Virginia Governor apparent and current Attorney General Jerry Kilgore, Congressman Eric Cantor.
He was the Republican candidate for sheriff in Alexandria, VA He likes to rub elbows with all these Republicans who know the following about him YET CHOOSE TO DO NOTHING:

He gave a woman an STD; she contracted cance as a result. He had (at the very least) an internet correspondence relationship with an underage minor girl. Did he go further? His wife threatens legal action against anyone who tries to find out. He likes to wear women’s lingerie

He is a party in a lawsuits in the Distric of Columbia Superior Court. The girl’s mother settled out of court to protect her daughter The man is an asshole. Can we humiliate him and his Republican cronies?

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By: Anonymous http://www.lessig.org/2004/07/mr-oreilly-please-just-stop/#comment-4432 Sun, 03 Oct 2004 13:19:55 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/07/mr_oreilly_please_just_stop.html#comment-4432 I just caught `Outfoxed’ in Australia, and it was quite the eye-opener. Jeremy sure has some courage.

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By: Foxtrot http://www.lessig.org/2004/07/mr-oreilly-please-just-stop/#comment-4431 Wed, 18 Aug 2004 18:13:15 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/07/mr_oreilly_please_just_stop.html#comment-4431 “Glick was being very rude to O�Reilly” – Fenris
I disagree. When O’Reilly has a man who lost his father in 9/11 and signs an antiwar ad on his show, whose views are we interested in hearing? What is the typical dynamic of an interview for that matter? Whose answers are we trying to hear? I wanted to know what Glick was trying to express. I think we all wish we had a better idea. That’s what we’re all arguing about here, right? So why don’t we know? Who was interrupting who? They were both stepping all over each other in conversation. They were both guilty. But who was being irresponsible there? As an interviewer, O’Reilly was being a terrible host. We don’t know what Glick was thinking because he never had a chance to say. He never had a chance to say because O’Reilly wanted to interject his own thoughts on the matter. “Glick�s conclusions were textbook groupthink anyway. It�s not like he had some revelation to tell Bill.” Well, but he’s the guest. He’s the only one of the two who won’t be on the show next time. We know O’Reilly’s views because IT’S HIS SHOW. He’s there every week. We know he supports the war. We know that. We know his opinions on Bush. So why must he interrupt his guest to say it? Did Bill have some revelation to tell Glick? To tell US? What was it? No one’s asking that, because no one cares. Everybody knows what O’Reilly thinks because O’Reilly makes sure you hear it. Glick however lost his chance to clearly convey his message to us via the Factor because of the behavior of the host. Because O’Reilly prevented him. We might have known exactly why Glick signed the Ad if he’d had the chance to say. Shame on Bill O’Reilly for denying us that answer.

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By: Foxtrot http://www.lessig.org/2004/07/mr-oreilly-please-just-stop/#comment-4430 Wed, 18 Aug 2004 17:57:54 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/07/mr_oreilly_please_just_stop.html#comment-4430 “That, imo, is the problem with most liberals – they believe that their opinion is fact.” – Jackson
That, IMO, is the problem with most PEOPLE. Observe the rediculousness of this situation. Glick states an oppinion (in the ad). O’Reilly interprets that oppinion to mean more than is says and states his oppinion as fact. Lessig states that O’Reilly was incorrect in jumping to those conclusions. Which of the 3 interpreted someone else’s words and stated their own oppinion on those words as fact? The only one definately guilty of that is O’Reilly. It appears even a few of the O’Reilly fans are agreeing with that. Lessig’s statements countered O’Reilly’s statements. Lessig says O’Reilly cannot jump to those conclusions. Lessig offers no conclusions of his own as to the meaning of Glick’s Ad, only that O’Reilly was wrong to offer his own conclusions as fact. So, we can clear this all up with a couple questions for Lessig.
Mr. Lessig, would you say that the conclusions offered by O’Reilly were sound conclusions based on the content of the Ad and of Glick’s verbal statements?
Mr. Lessig, could you prove that Glick does not think the US is a terrorist nation nor that George H W Bush killed his father based on the content of the Ad and of Glick’s verbal statements?

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By: Foxtrot http://www.lessig.org/2004/07/mr-oreilly-please-just-stop/#comment-4429 Wed, 18 Aug 2004 17:44:58 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/07/mr_oreilly_please_just_stop.html#comment-4429 Thanks to rone for pointing out Thomas’s slip better than I was about to.

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By: Foxtrot http://www.lessig.org/2004/07/mr-oreilly-please-just-stop/#comment-4428 Wed, 18 Aug 2004 17:40:47 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/07/mr_oreilly_please_just_stop.html#comment-4428 In regards to the post “by Mike on Jul 25 04 at 10:30 AM”…
It is good of you to point out how passionate points of view can often get in the way of rational thought. It is unfortunate that much of your post contained such passionate misconceptions.
First of all, I would suggest that you diversify your news intake. If you don’t listen to someone just because they don’t agree with you, you are doing yourself a disservice. I personally use news.google.com to reference multiple news sources (even the Washington Post, owned by News Corp, which owns Fox and O’Reilly) because I like to see what lots of people are saying, get the big picture.
O’Reilly stated something as fact. There are a list of things that he claimed were said by Glick and by the Ad. “Technically you may [be] could say Glick said nothing of the sort…” Which is why you cannot claim the opposite as fact. Obviously you see that O’Reilly’s statements were interpretations. So he was in the wrong by caliming them as fact. But when Lessig positions himself counter to O’Reilly’s statements, that doesn’t mean he’s trying to claim that Glick had all the right, altruistic intentions. That would be “left-leaning” spin. He’s saying that no such specific intentions can be offered as fact. He’s saying that the conclusions O’Reilly offered were not valid, they required a leap. That leap was the assumption that Glick was as far to the left as possible given his statements. To say this is not spin. It is counter spin. Lessig is not spinning what was said in the Ad or by Glick, he is saying that O’Reilly’s conclusions could not be reached, that O’Reilly was adding spin. Your anti-spin arguments work more effectively if you turn them on O’Reilly in the first place. You are attempting to do to Lessig what Lessig has done to O’Reilly and I’m sorry but it doesn’t work that way.

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By: Foxtrot http://www.lessig.org/2004/07/mr-oreilly-please-just-stop/#comment-4427 Wed, 18 Aug 2004 17:18:30 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/07/mr_oreilly_please_just_stop.html#comment-4427 “…the ad poses an equivalence between the terrorist of 9/11 and the US.”
“In the interview Mr. Glick does make clear that he hold[s] George H. W. Bush responsible for the murder of his father” — Thomas

The ad offers the 9/11 attacks and the US foreign activity in proximity to make some point of similarity. The point is not stated and is unclear. The meaning behind the statement as commented on by Glick himself in the interview “it’s actually a material equivalence” is telling. What is the material, the substance, that makes up terrorist activity? Death. What is the material, the substance, of the US activity in the nations mentioned? Death. That is sufficient equivalence to merrit the statement in the ad. One has no basis to project that there was any more equivalence intended by the statement. To voice such a projection without explicitly stating it as oppinion is invalid, and that is what O’Reilly is guilty of.

In the interview, Glick makes it clear that he believes the actions of Bush senior and the legacy inherited by Bush junior are relavent to the debate about Iraq. He never had a chance to fully illustrate why he kept bringing up Bush. The real reason could very well have been that the terrorist attack of 9/11 was partially due to our foreign policy, one which has often consisted of violence, one which directly effected Afghanistan during Bush’s service in the CIA, and one that is currently offending a large majority of Middle Easterners, some happily signing up with the terrorist opposition as a result. I don’t think it is unreasonable to add Bush I and II to the debate. O’Reilly’s reaction, one of immediate dismissal is more telling, in my opinion.

Had Glick had a chance to finish his explanation, perhaps he would have said that engaging in a cycle of violence is a waste of resources. Perhaps he would have commented on how as a victim of 9/11 he was crushed that the government chose to divert attention to Iraq with Osama still at large. Who knows? Now some that signed the ad may have had different ideas, some may have been conspiracy theorists that thought the Bush family planned and implemented 9/11 via their ties to the rebels utilized in Afghanistan. There is no evidence that this was true of Glick.

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By: Foxtrot http://www.lessig.org/2004/07/mr-oreilly-please-just-stop/#comment-4426 Wed, 18 Aug 2004 16:46:38 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/07/mr_oreilly_please_just_stop.html#comment-4426 “I guess we could be disingenuous and say they�re only equating the visual scenes themselves, but I don�t think that was the intent of the comparison.” — The Lonewacko Blog
Yes, we could interpret it that way. In fact there are many disingenuous ways of interpreting the ad. Another would be to assume that it accused the nation of terrorism. That is why it is inaccurate to state as fact either interpretation. All that is clear about the statement is that it juxtaposes terrorism on 9/11 and US action in Baghdad, Panama City, and Vietnam. The nature and intent behind the statement can be anything from calling the US a terrorist nation to a simple hint that the US is also responsible for violence. It’s in the eye of the beholder. I believe Lessig was trying to illustrate this point. O’Reilly took this statement and interpreted it as far to the left as he could, then offered HIS interpretatiion as GLICK’s interpretation. It is in this way that O’Reilly overstepped the prudence of an ‘analyst’. The Lonewacko is correct, however, in beginning his statement with an admission that his statement to follow was an interpretation. “That certainly sounds to me”. Had O’Reilly said that, he would be in the clear.

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By: josh http://www.lessig.org/2004/07/mr-oreilly-please-just-stop/#comment-4425 Mon, 16 Aug 2004 21:05:03 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/07/mr_oreilly_please_just_stop.html#comment-4425 “You have a lazy and facile Nero when a tactically erudite Domitian is required”

Are you serious? The rule of Domitian over Rome was one of conquest and terror by a dictatorial government. His rule ended when he was assassinated as a tyrant.

I’m not a huge Roman history scholar, but I do know I’d rather not have the US follow the same path Rome did.

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By: David http://www.lessig.org/2004/07/mr-oreilly-please-just-stop/#comment-4424 Thu, 12 Aug 2004 00:12:49 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/07/mr_oreilly_please_just_stop.html#comment-4424 …when the personal and smearing attacks against Democrats were so prolific

Let’s be fair and balanced, shall we? While there are certainly unjustified attacks against Democrats, and this nation has indeed become severly polarized, it doesn’t follow that one side is pure and innocent. The personal and smearing attacks against Republicans has reached a fever pitch as well. As a Libertarian I am able to distance myself from the debate and view both sides objectively. From what I see, neither the Dems or the Reps have much moral integrity left. The politics here have become one of shouting lies back and forth, with biased media on both sides gladly acting as megaphones.

O’Reilly, Coulter and Limbaugh may not be journalists, but then again, neither are Franken or Ivens…

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By: Kai http://www.lessig.org/2004/07/mr-oreilly-please-just-stop/#comment-4423 Fri, 06 Aug 2004 23:47:33 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/07/mr_oreilly_please_just_stop.html#comment-4423 To even mention Paxmen in the same breath as O’Reilly is an insult to a truly great journalist. Whatever you think of Paxman’s aggressive style, he uses it on every guest before him, regardless of political leaning or their position on the argument in question. Everybody that he interviews walks out of the studio having said more than they wanted. They invariably end up hating him, too.

If both sides hate you you’re doing something right. He’s an obnoxious so and so, but he’s absolutely nothing like O’Reilly.

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By: Michael http://www.lessig.org/2004/07/mr-oreilly-please-just-stop/#comment-4422 Fri, 06 Aug 2004 15:24:19 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/07/mr_oreilly_please_just_stop.html#comment-4422 As a Canadian, I cannot remember when the US was so rancorously divided in its opinions in a presidential election year; when the personal and smearing attacks against Democrats were so prolific. It seems there is something seriously wrong with your country’s political elite. You have a lazy and facile Nero when a tactically erudite Domitian is required; you have the raucous caw of neo-con harpies on the television; and you have the constant, politically expedient and demoralizing ‘terror alerts’ whenever ‘Dubya’ needs a boost.

O’Reilly, like Coulter & Limbaugh, are NOT journalists, they are comic caricatures – organs for the State as Pravda was for the USSR. He is a buffoon who, unfortunately, has a large, televised and cleverly masked bully pulpit from which to vomit his bile.

Michael

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By: Jack Dominey http://www.lessig.org/2004/07/mr-oreilly-please-just-stop/#comment-4421 Thu, 05 Aug 2004 17:57:44 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/07/mr_oreilly_please_just_stop.html#comment-4421 Andrew Magus:

Gore didn�t just say that he was an early supported, he said, �During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet.�

That’s an accurate quote as far as I know. Thank you. Now why do you characterize it as “a slippery statement” or “crap”? It’s not. At worst, it’s a politician blowing his own horn. By any reasonable standard, it’s absolutely true . Don’t believe me? Try this on for size:

Gore is the person who, in the Congress, most systematically worked to make sure that we got to an Internet

The flaming liberal Gore-lover who made that statement? Newt Gingrich.

For full documentation, see http://www.dailyhowler.com/dh120302.shtml

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By: bbridges http://www.lessig.org/2004/07/mr-oreilly-please-just-stop/#comment-4420 Wed, 04 Aug 2004 13:27:58 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/07/mr_oreilly_please_just_stop.html#comment-4420 I personally know Jeremy; we’re both in PhD programs at the same university. He is a brilliant, careful thinker. He had enough experience with Bill O’Reilly’s “interview” style to know that anyone who disagrees with the host will have the opportunity to get out maybe one salient point and he came prepared to say that. O’Reilly doesn’t interview anybody; he uses right-wingers to puppet his views and lefties as foils so he can pontinficate. His “questions” are usually long monologues. I believe that if the network would allow it, he would just blather on incessently for an hour. Furthermore, I find it enlightening that O’Reilly finds it treasonous and unpatriotic to criticize the president or government; oddly, he didn’t feel the same way when Clinton was in office, and I’m sure that he’ll 180 that position when/if Kerry is elected. It would be so bad if he weren’t such a pompous pseudo-intellectual lightweight–at the very least, Pat Buchanan is intelligent.

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By: A Brit http://www.lessig.org/2004/07/mr-oreilly-please-just-stop/#comment-4419 Wed, 04 Aug 2004 07:23:23 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/07/mr_oreilly_please_just_stop.html#comment-4419 To all other Brits who say we use manners on TV: pull your heads out. You’ve clearly never watched Newsnight with Jeremy Paxman who speaks louder than any guest he’s ever had to answer skewed questions purposefully leading the interviewee and audience. This is the same tactic used by Mr O’Reilly.
To the ranting loon who wrote a thesis on Michael Moore: Please do yourself a favour and check out http://www.hardylaw.net/Truth_About_Bowling.html and possibly http://www.spinsanity.com But PLEASE do your own research before trusting anyone (print media, celluloid, and ether) who makes any form of profit by discussing news/politics/etc. This goes for CNN, Fox, Time Warner, the lot.
Anyone considering the Bill O’Reilly show as ‘news coverage’ needs a reality check. He’s no more than Larry King with a more politically slanted, angst-ridden agenda to sell. Are these the same people who learn about things watching Jerry Springer? It’s entertainment, pure and simple. Agree/Disagree with Bill, makes no difference as its his show. Don’t watch if it angers you. Flick on Will and Grace (unless you’re a homophobe).
Fox News got a base of viewers tired of hearing Ted Turner’s take on things in America (my opinion, nothing more). Incorrect? I’m sure they are sometimes but I don’t watch news programmes without a pinch of salt in how the newsreaders face and reactions are skewing my perception of the story.
On that point, a recent survey of journalism students said 57% were going into the field ‘to make a difference’. Not to be unbiased, not to just read facts, but to make a difference?! They want their own stamp on things just as Mr Moore and Mr O’Reilly do. How journalism has changed over the years………..

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By: Andrew Magnus http://www.lessig.org/2004/07/mr-oreilly-please-just-stop/#comment-4418 Wed, 04 Aug 2004 02:04:43 +0000 http://lessig.org/blog/2004/07/mr_oreilly_please_just_stop.html#comment-4418 Dano,

Probably think you slam-dunked McCullagh there, but you’re wrong. Gore didn’t just say that he was an early supported, he said, “During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet.” That is a direct quote, no converting there.

And it’d be one thing to catch Gore in one slippery statement. He said this crap consistently and was called on it by people it insulted and yes, people who had political reason to call him on the carpet for things he said. That isn’t smearing, that’s politics. Gore was playing politics in taking credit for taking the initiative to create the Internet, and McCullagh was playing politics when he put it out there for everyone to laugh at.

Think I’m nit-picking? Nobody made Gore say crap like, “I certainly learned a great deal from 3,000 town hall meetings across my home state of Tennessee over a 16-year period”. That’s a meeting every other day over that 16-year period.

And if you’re a Gore fan, besides feeling sorry for you, I have to ask: when does it stop becoming a coincidence that these statements almost make sense if VERY carefully explained away and when does it start becoming a pre-planned attempt by Gore to mislead us??? Be real, he says this junk on his own. Quoting him is not smearing him. Nobody sets him up for this, he plans it out ahead of time and says it with a straight face.

One point I never saw given enough attention in my mind was this: Gore was unable to carry Tennessee. People talk about picking a VP based on his ability to pull a region, or at least his home state into their column. Gore couldn’t carry his own home state, what does that say about the man? The people who know him best would not select him. It’s obvious that dano is stuck in November 2000, and that is sad. That’s a lonely place to be stuck, surrounded by bitter whine-bags and crying about the ‘selected not elected’ Bush. Give it up. Gore was a joke and everyone should thank God (or nature, I don’t want to offend the Dem base) that Gore didn’t find his way into office. Step outside of your political affiliation and seriously consider what Al Gore would have done after 9/11. NOTE: if you can’t picture what he would have done, or if what Bush did and your hatred for Bush come to mind first, look up how Gore and Clinton reacted to terrorist attacks on American interests abroad throughout the 90′s.

Argue with me dano. I know you won’t change your mind or admit you’re out of line calling McCullagh a liar and blaming Gore’s downfall on him, but I would like to have your wiggling on the record in this forum.

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