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		<title>By: Abiyeler</title>
		<link>http://www.lessig.org/2004/06/this-is-the-constitution-on-dr/#comment-4708</link>
		<dc:creator>Abiyeler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 14:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;I don&#039;t know which ruling you are talking about from&lt;br /&gt;
the Second Circuit Court of Appeals. I assume that&lt;br /&gt;
you are talking about the ruling against 2600. If so,&lt;br /&gt;
everyone knows that the purpose of the program as&lt;br /&gt;
provided by 2600 is to infringe copyrights.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Good&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know which ruling you are talking about from<br />
the Second Circuit Court of Appeals. I assume that<br />
you are talking about the ruling against 2600. If so,<br />
everyone knows that the purpose of the program as<br />
provided by 2600 is to infringe copyrights.</p>
<p>Good</p>
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		<title>By: dolan</title>
		<link>http://www.lessig.org/2004/06/this-is-the-constitution-on-dr/#comment-4707</link>
		<dc:creator>dolan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2004 18:14:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;I know of a technology that can be used to circumvent... a keyboard.  I&#039;m fairly certain that it&#039;s sole purpose was to circumvent the DMCA, and it should be outlawed immediately.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know of a technology that can be used to circumvent&#8230; a keyboard.  I&#8217;m fairly certain that it&#8217;s sole purpose was to circumvent the DMCA, and it should be outlawed immediately.</p>
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		<title>By: William Wilson</title>
		<link>http://www.lessig.org/2004/06/this-is-the-constitution-on-dr/#comment-4706</link>
		<dc:creator>William Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2004 12:35:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Seems to me the proper thing to do would be to spend a little time, create a PDF file of the Constitution, Declaration of Independence, etc. and make it available everywhere--email it to friends, colleagues, Amazon.com employees, et al. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Plus, the PDF file would be Mac OS compatible!&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems to me the proper thing to do would be to spend a little time, create a PDF file of the Constitution, Declaration of Independence, etc. and make it available everywhere&#8211;email it to friends, colleagues, Amazon.com employees, et al. </p>
<p>Plus, the PDF file would be Mac OS compatible!</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph Pietro Riolo</title>
		<link>http://www.lessig.org/2004/06/this-is-the-constitution-on-dr/#comment-4705</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph Pietro Riolo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jul 2004 21:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Responding to Justin&#039;s comment:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;As I explained before, each technology can be used in&lt;br /&gt;
legal and illegal ways.  Just because a technology&lt;br /&gt;
can be used in illegal ways to infringe someone&#039;s&lt;br /&gt;
copyright does not mean that it is outlawed for every&lt;br /&gt;
use.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I don&#039;t think that you interpret the DCMA correctly.&lt;br /&gt;
It only has effect on the works that still have&lt;br /&gt;
copyright.  DCMA is totally nothing when it comes&lt;br /&gt;
to the public domain works.  If I write a program&lt;br /&gt;
that breaks the encryption method X in your example,&lt;br /&gt;
I must take some additional steps to ensure that&lt;br /&gt;
the program will not be used primarily to infringe&lt;br /&gt;
copyrights.  One way to do this is not to release&lt;br /&gt;
the code to the wide public in the same way as&lt;br /&gt;
the locksmith does not make his tools available to&lt;br /&gt;
all people.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I don&#039;t know which ruling you are talking about from&lt;br /&gt;
the Second Circuit Court of Appeals.  I assume that&lt;br /&gt;
you are talking about the ruling against 2600.  If so,&lt;br /&gt;
everyone knows that the purpose of the program as&lt;br /&gt;
provided by 2600 is to infringe copyrights.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Joseph Pietro Riolo&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;riolo@voicenet.com&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Public domain notice:  I put all of my expressions&lt;br /&gt;
in this comment in the public domain.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Responding to Justin&#8217;s comment:</p>
<p>As I explained before, each technology can be used in<br />
legal and illegal ways.  Just because a technology<br />
can be used in illegal ways to infringe someone&#8217;s<br />
copyright does not mean that it is outlawed for every<br />
use.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think that you interpret the DCMA correctly.<br />
It only has effect on the works that still have<br />
copyright.  DCMA is totally nothing when it comes<br />
to the public domain works.  If I write a program<br />
that breaks the encryption method X in your example,<br />
I must take some additional steps to ensure that<br />
the program will not be used primarily to infringe<br />
copyrights.  One way to do this is not to release<br />
the code to the wide public in the same way as<br />
the locksmith does not make his tools available to<br />
all people.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know which ruling you are talking about from<br />
the Second Circuit Court of Appeals.  I assume that<br />
you are talking about the ruling against 2600.  If so,<br />
everyone knows that the purpose of the program as<br />
provided by 2600 is to infringe copyrights.</p>
<p>
Joseph Pietro Riolo<br />
&lt;riolo@voicenet.com&gt;</p>
<p>Public domain notice:  I put all of my expressions<br />
in this comment in the public domain.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
		<link>http://www.lessig.org/2004/06/this-is-the-constitution-on-dr/#comment-4704</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jul 2004 14:46:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;A few people have pointed out that it&#039;s legal to break the encryption that protects a work in the public domain.  This assumes, however, that that particular method &lt;b&gt;only&lt;/b&gt; protects work in the public domain.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Work A is in the public domain.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Work A is protected by encryption method X.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Therefore it should be legal to break X.  But ...&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Work B is not in the public domain.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Work B is protected by encryption method X.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Therefore it is not legal to break X, or do any of the things the DMCA forbids, since if you broke X, you&#039;d be able to get at B.&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I see the DMCA as the digital equivalent of demanding that car manuafacturers will be liable for the accidents their customers cause, unless the car manufacturer put a speed governor in each car.  It&#039;s also illegal to tamper with the speed governor, but you are allowed to tamper with the governor for vintage cars not capable of going above the set speed.  The problem is if the same governor is used in modern cars, it&#039;ll still illegal.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And, showing their true colors, the Second Circuit Court of Appeals has ruled that the speed governor thing is fine, since you are still capable of getting your car above the governed speed; for example, you can drop it out of a C130 transport plane from 20,000 ft.  Just because the law says you &lt;b&gt;can&lt;/b&gt; get up to speed, you don&#039;t have a right to obtain that speed in the desired direction.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few people have pointed out that it&#8217;s legal to break the encryption that protects a work in the public domain.  This assumes, however, that that particular method <b>only</b> protects work in the public domain.</p>
<ul>
<li>Work A is in the public domain.</li>
<li>Work A is protected by encryption method X.</li>
<li>Therefore it should be legal to break X.  But &#8230;</li>
<li>Work B is not in the public domain.</li>
<li>Work B is protected by encryption method X.</li>
<li>Therefore it is not legal to break X, or do any of the things the DMCA forbids, since if you broke X, you&#8217;d be able to get at B.</li>
</ul>
<p>I see the DMCA as the digital equivalent of demanding that car manuafacturers will be liable for the accidents their customers cause, unless the car manufacturer put a speed governor in each car.  It&#8217;s also illegal to tamper with the speed governor, but you are allowed to tamper with the governor for vintage cars not capable of going above the set speed.  The problem is if the same governor is used in modern cars, it&#8217;ll still illegal.</p>
<p>And, showing their true colors, the Second Circuit Court of Appeals has ruled that the speed governor thing is fine, since you are still capable of getting your car above the governed speed; for example, you can drop it out of a C130 transport plane from 20,000 ft.  Just because the law says you <b>can</b> get up to speed, you don&#8217;t have a right to obtain that speed in the desired direction.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimby</title>
		<link>http://www.lessig.org/2004/06/this-is-the-constitution-on-dr/#comment-4703</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jul 2004 13:09:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Thanks to this blog entry, many of my European friends now believe that printing a private copy of the U.S. constitution is illegal.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Just in case any reasonable person had doubts,  printing the U.S. constitution is *not* illegal.   The text of the constitution can be found on the internet and in almost any encyclopedia,  American history textbook, or standard book on American government.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;No one &quot;owns&quot; the constitution.  The document was written many years before standard copyright law existed.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The reason why it sometimes costs money to obtain a copy is that someone went to the trouble of typing it up and printing it (or placing it on line).  Unless one is a volunteer, labor is not free, and neither is paper.  The costs involved are compensation for the labor and materials involved, not compensation for access to the intellectual property.  Even when the U.S. Government Printing Office prints something, it costs something.  Paper and labor are free for Uncle Sam.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to this blog entry, many of my European friends now believe that printing a private copy of the U.S. constitution is illegal.  </p>
<p>Just in case any reasonable person had doubts,  printing the U.S. constitution is *not* illegal.   The text of the constitution can be found on the internet and in almost any encyclopedia,  American history textbook, or standard book on American government.</p>
<p>No one &#8220;owns&#8221; the constitution.  The document was written many years before standard copyright law existed.  </p>
<p>The reason why it sometimes costs money to obtain a copy is that someone went to the trouble of typing it up and printing it (or placing it on line).  Unless one is a volunteer, labor is not free, and neither is paper.  The costs involved are compensation for the labor and materials involved, not compensation for access to the intellectual property.  Even when the U.S. Government Printing Office prints something, it costs something.  Paper and labor are free for Uncle Sam.</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph Pietro Riolo</title>
		<link>http://www.lessig.org/2004/06/this-is-the-constitution-on-dr/#comment-4702</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph Pietro Riolo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jun 2004 00:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Responding to Tom&#039;s comment:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I don&#039;t think that you got the beach analogy&lt;br /&gt;
correctly.  In the original analogy, beach is&lt;br /&gt;
public property which means that there is no&lt;br /&gt;
ownership in beach, just like the public domain.&lt;br /&gt;
But, as the analogy continues, the access&lt;br /&gt;
routes to the beach are privately owned.  The&lt;br /&gt;
only thing that is analogous to privately owned&lt;br /&gt;
access routes is license that can specify how&lt;br /&gt;
a person can access and use the public domain&lt;br /&gt;
works.  The U.S. copyright law does not grant&lt;br /&gt;
any private ownership in the access to the&lt;br /&gt;
public domain works.  Only the contract law can&lt;br /&gt;
do that and it is effective only between parties&lt;br /&gt;
that agree to the terms and conditions.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;You have a point that I go too far in using gun&lt;br /&gt;
and medicine as examples where documentation,&lt;br /&gt;
control, and tracking system is used.  These are&lt;br /&gt;
not the only ones that I have in my mind.  Other&lt;br /&gt;
examples are student files that are kept in&lt;br /&gt;
school, medical files in doctor&#039;s office, financial&lt;br /&gt;
records in bank, legal documents in lawyer&#039;s&lt;br /&gt;
office, and so on.  All of them need a system&lt;br /&gt;
where documentation can be kept, control against&lt;br /&gt;
illegal uses is effective, and documents or things&lt;br /&gt;
can be tracked.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Don&#039;t blame me for being too cautious for using&lt;br /&gt;
technologies to break protection system to copy&lt;br /&gt;
the public domain works.  The infringers are&lt;br /&gt;
largely responsible for casting bad light on the&lt;br /&gt;
legitimate uses of technologies to break protection&lt;br /&gt;
system.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Responding to Paul Hartzog&#039;s comment:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If you look at different blog items in the category&lt;br /&gt;
under &quot;Just Plain Silly&quot;, some are quite serious.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Will Fuller who asked you the question apparently&lt;br /&gt;
does not understand the meaning of the public domain.&lt;br /&gt;
Any work that is in the public domain remains in&lt;br /&gt;
that status forever unless changed by law.  If he&lt;br /&gt;
means that he wants the public domain to be totally&lt;br /&gt;
free of constraints, he needs to attack the&lt;br /&gt;
contract law that includes license.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Also, you do not apparently understand the meaning&lt;br /&gt;
of the public domain.  Without protections, the&lt;br /&gt;
public domain truly flourish, like the ancient&lt;br /&gt;
times where there is no intellectual property rights.&lt;br /&gt;
With protections, the public domain stops growing&lt;br /&gt;
- it never vanish as you stated.  That is why GPL&lt;br /&gt;
and some Creative Commons licenses are never&lt;br /&gt;
considered as pro-public domain.  They are always&lt;br /&gt;
pro-copyright because they rely on protections as&lt;br /&gt;
provided by copyright and contract law to protect&lt;br /&gt;
the exclusive rights in copyrighted works and the&lt;br /&gt;
terms and conditions in license or contract.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Joseph Pietro Riolo&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;riolo@voicenet.com&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Public domain notice:  I put all of my expressions&lt;br /&gt;
in this comment in the public domain.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Responding to Tom&#8217;s comment:</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think that you got the beach analogy<br />
correctly.  In the original analogy, beach is<br />
public property which means that there is no<br />
ownership in beach, just like the public domain.<br />
But, as the analogy continues, the access<br />
routes to the beach are privately owned.  The<br />
only thing that is analogous to privately owned<br />
access routes is license that can specify how<br />
a person can access and use the public domain<br />
works.  The U.S. copyright law does not grant<br />
any private ownership in the access to the<br />
public domain works.  Only the contract law can<br />
do that and it is effective only between parties<br />
that agree to the terms and conditions.</p>
<p>You have a point that I go too far in using gun<br />
and medicine as examples where documentation,<br />
control, and tracking system is used.  These are<br />
not the only ones that I have in my mind.  Other<br />
examples are student files that are kept in<br />
school, medical files in doctor&#8217;s office, financial<br />
records in bank, legal documents in lawyer&#8217;s<br />
office, and so on.  All of them need a system<br />
where documentation can be kept, control against<br />
illegal uses is effective, and documents or things<br />
can be tracked.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t blame me for being too cautious for using<br />
technologies to break protection system to copy<br />
the public domain works.  The infringers are<br />
largely responsible for casting bad light on the<br />
legitimate uses of technologies to break protection<br />
system.</p>
<p>Responding to Paul Hartzog&#8217;s comment:</p>
<p>If you look at different blog items in the category<br />
under &#8220;Just Plain Silly&#8221;, some are quite serious.</p>
<p>Will Fuller who asked you the question apparently<br />
does not understand the meaning of the public domain.<br />
Any work that is in the public domain remains in<br />
that status forever unless changed by law.  If he<br />
means that he wants the public domain to be totally<br />
free of constraints, he needs to attack the<br />
contract law that includes license.</p>
<p>Also, you do not apparently understand the meaning<br />
of the public domain.  Without protections, the<br />
public domain truly flourish, like the ancient<br />
times where there is no intellectual property rights.<br />
With protections, the public domain stops growing<br />
- it never vanish as you stated.  That is why GPL<br />
and some Creative Commons licenses are never<br />
considered as pro-public domain.  They are always<br />
pro-copyright because they rely on protections as<br />
provided by copyright and contract law to protect<br />
the exclusive rights in copyrighted works and the<br />
terms and conditions in license or contract.</p>
<p>
Joseph Pietro Riolo<br />
&lt;riolo@voicenet.com&gt;</p>
<p>Public domain notice:  I put all of my expressions<br />
in this comment in the public domain.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Hartzog</title>
		<link>http://www.lessig.org/2004/06/this-is-the-constitution-on-dr/#comment-4701</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Hartzog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2004 16:31:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Cory blogged this over at boingboing, too&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.boingboing.net/2004/06/24/drmed_constitution_m.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.boingboing.net/2004/06/24/drmed_constitution_m.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.boingboing.net/2004/06/24/drmed_constitution_m.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cory blogged this over at boingboing, too</p>
<p><a href="http://www.boingboing.net/2004/06/24/drmed_constitution_m.html" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.boingboing.net/2004/06/24/drmed_constitution_m.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.boingboing.net/2004/06/24/drmed_constitution_m.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Paul Hartzog</title>
		<link>http://www.lessig.org/2004/06/this-is-the-constitution-on-dr/#comment-4700</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Hartzog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2004 16:16:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;First, you&#039;ll notice that L posted this in &lt;b&gt;Just Plain Silly&lt;/b&gt; so lighten up.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Second, as Will Fuller (the person who pointed out the link to me before I passed it on to L) asked me yesterday:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;Why isn&#039;t there some way to &#039;copyright&#039; a document so that it stays firmly in the public domain and cannot under any circumstances be expropriated for private use/distribution (DRM, etc.)?&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Well, there is.  Try Creative Commons licensing, or the GPL.  Without protections our public domain will vanish as it is already doing.  Just because you &lt;b&gt;can&lt;/b&gt; DRM the constitution doesn&#039;t mean you &lt;b&gt;should&lt;/b&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, you&#8217;ll notice that L posted this in <b>Just Plain Silly</b> so lighten up.</p>
<p>Second, as Will Fuller (the person who pointed out the link to me before I passed it on to L) asked me yesterday:</p>
<p><em>Why isn&#8217;t there some way to &#8216;copyright&#8217; a document so that it stays firmly in the public domain and cannot under any circumstances be expropriated for private use/distribution (DRM, etc.)?</em></p>
<p>Well, there is.  Try Creative Commons licensing, or the GPL.  Without protections our public domain will vanish as it is already doing.  Just because you <b>can</b> DRM the constitution doesn&#8217;t mean you <b>should</b>.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://www.lessig.org/2004/06/this-is-the-constitution-on-dr/#comment-4699</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2004 15:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Joseph Pietro Riolo:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;(Your analogy of beach would work with the concept of license - people can control access to and uses on the public domain works through license.)&lt;/blockquote&gt;
On the contrary, the beach analogy presumes rightful ownership.  If someone else owns the beach, windsurfing may not be an option.

&lt;blockquote&gt;The key in making and selling guns is to have a good documentation, control, and tracking system. We can apply the same idea to the technologies that are designed to break protection systems to copy the public domain works. The same idea is used in making and selling medicine.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Guns and medicines are so regulated because they can kill.  Equating copyright infringement to homicide is quite a stretch.

&lt;blockquote&gt;If a person desires to break DRM in order to copy a public domain work but does not now how to write code or make equipment, he can hire someone to write code or make equipment....  Once the use is accomplished, lock up the technology for future uses or destroy it.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Nothing promotes the progress of science and useful arts quite like fees, locks, and destruction.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Other way is to teach the person how to write code or make equipment.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
So long as one doesn&#039;t teach by example, apparently.  
 
&lt;blockquote&gt;The abuse of technologies to break protection systems has greatly hurt the legitimate uses of the same technologies but that does not change the fact that there is nothing illegal in using technology to break DRM to copy public domain works.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Never mind practicality; it works on paper.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joseph Pietro Riolo:</p>
<blockquote><p>(Your analogy of beach would work with the concept of license &#8211; people can control access to and uses on the public domain works through license.)</p></blockquote>
<p>On the contrary, the beach analogy presumes rightful ownership.  If someone else owns the beach, windsurfing may not be an option.</p>
<blockquote><p>The key in making and selling guns is to have a good documentation, control, and tracking system. We can apply the same idea to the technologies that are designed to break protection systems to copy the public domain works. The same idea is used in making and selling medicine.</p></blockquote>
<p>Guns and medicines are so regulated because they can kill.  Equating copyright infringement to homicide is quite a stretch.</p>
<blockquote><p>If a person desires to break DRM in order to copy a public domain work but does not now how to write code or make equipment, he can hire someone to write code or make equipment&#8230;.  Once the use is accomplished, lock up the technology for future uses or destroy it.</p></blockquote>
<p>Nothing promotes the progress of science and useful arts quite like fees, locks, and destruction.</p>
<blockquote><p>Other way is to teach the person how to write code or make equipment.</p></blockquote>
<p>So long as one doesn&#8217;t teach by example, apparently.  </p>
<blockquote><p>The abuse of technologies to break protection systems has greatly hurt the legitimate uses of the same technologies but that does not change the fact that there is nothing illegal in using technology to break DRM to copy public domain works.</p></blockquote>
<p>Never mind practicality; it works on paper.</p>
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		<title>By: Brendon J. Wilson</title>
		<link>http://www.lessig.org/2004/06/this-is-the-constitution-on-dr/#comment-4698</link>
		<dc:creator>Brendon J. Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2004 15:33:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;There is, of course, a very simply way around this: create your own &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.brendonwilson.com/profile/000169.shtml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;non-DRMed version&lt;/a&gt;!&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is, of course, a very simply way around this: create your own <a href="http://www.brendonwilson.com/profile/000169.shtml" rel="nofollow">non-DRMed version</a>!</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://www.lessig.org/2004/06/this-is-the-constitution-on-dr/#comment-4697</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2004 14:49:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://lessig.org/blog/2004/06/this_is_the_constitution_on_dr.html#comment-4697</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;&quot;Yes, it�s legal under the DMCA to break the DRM here so the&lt;br /&gt;
work can be printed and viewed on other computers, since&lt;br /&gt;
the underlying work is not copyrighted. But how would people do this in practice? Unless they have the talent and patience to write the DRM-breaking code themselves from scratch, which very few people do, they�d have to obtain the code from somewhere else, and since the same code that breaks the DRM on this document can also be used to break the DRM on copyrighted works, they collide with the �anti-trafficking� provision of the DMCA.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;At least that explanation and the expansion of it that Mr. Riolo provides makes sense and provides some food for thought.  Thanks to you both.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Yes, it�s legal under the DMCA to break the DRM here so the<br />
work can be printed and viewed on other computers, since<br />
the underlying work is not copyrighted. But how would people do this in practice? Unless they have the talent and patience to write the DRM-breaking code themselves from scratch, which very few people do, they�d have to obtain the code from somewhere else, and since the same code that breaks the DRM on this document can also be used to break the DRM on copyrighted works, they collide with the �anti-trafficking� provision of the DMCA.</p>
<p>At least that explanation and the expansion of it that Mr. Riolo provides makes sense and provides some food for thought.  Thanks to you both.</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph Pietro Riolo</title>
		<link>http://www.lessig.org/2004/06/this-is-the-constitution-on-dr/#comment-4696</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph Pietro Riolo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2004 11:14:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://lessig.org/blog/2004/06/this_is_the_constitution_on_dr.html#comment-4696</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Commenting on John Mark Ockerbloom&#039;s comment:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Your analogy of beach is not quite right.  (Your&lt;br /&gt;
analogy of beach would work with the concept of&lt;br /&gt;
license - people can control access to and uses&lt;br /&gt;
on the public domain works through license.)  I&lt;br /&gt;
would suggest gun as an analogy.  Guns could be&lt;br /&gt;
used in legal and illegal ways.  The key in making&lt;br /&gt;
and selling guns is to have a good documentation,&lt;br /&gt;
control, and tracking system.  We can apply the&lt;br /&gt;
same idea to the technologies that are designed&lt;br /&gt;
to break protection systems to copy the public&lt;br /&gt;
domain works.  The same idea is used in making&lt;br /&gt;
and selling medicine.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If a person desires to break DRM in order to copy&lt;br /&gt;
a public domain work but does not now how to write&lt;br /&gt;
code or make equipment, he can hire someone to&lt;br /&gt;
write code or make equipment.  Both he and the&lt;br /&gt;
maker of technology should have all documentations&lt;br /&gt;
to record their activities.  That way, whenever&lt;br /&gt;
they are sued, they can present the documentations&lt;br /&gt;
to a court.  Once the use is accomplished, lock&lt;br /&gt;
up the technology for future uses or destroy it.&lt;br /&gt;
Other way is to teach the person how to write code&lt;br /&gt;
or make equipment.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The abuse of technologies to break protection&lt;br /&gt;
systems has greatly hurt the legitimate uses of&lt;br /&gt;
the same technologies but that does not change&lt;br /&gt;
the fact that there is nothing illegal in using&lt;br /&gt;
technology to break DRM to copy public domain&lt;br /&gt;
works.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Joseph Pietro Riolo&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;riolo@voicenet.com&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Public domain notice:  I put all of my expressions&lt;br /&gt;
in this comment in the public domain.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Commenting on John Mark Ockerbloom&#8217;s comment:</p>
<p>Your analogy of beach is not quite right.  (Your<br />
analogy of beach would work with the concept of<br />
license &#8211; people can control access to and uses<br />
on the public domain works through license.)  I<br />
would suggest gun as an analogy.  Guns could be<br />
used in legal and illegal ways.  The key in making<br />
and selling guns is to have a good documentation,<br />
control, and tracking system.  We can apply the<br />
same idea to the technologies that are designed<br />
to break protection systems to copy the public<br />
domain works.  The same idea is used in making<br />
and selling medicine.</p>
<p>If a person desires to break DRM in order to copy<br />
a public domain work but does not now how to write<br />
code or make equipment, he can hire someone to<br />
write code or make equipment.  Both he and the<br />
maker of technology should have all documentations<br />
to record their activities.  That way, whenever<br />
they are sued, they can present the documentations<br />
to a court.  Once the use is accomplished, lock<br />
up the technology for future uses or destroy it.<br />
Other way is to teach the person how to write code<br />
or make equipment.</p>
<p>The abuse of technologies to break protection<br />
systems has greatly hurt the legitimate uses of<br />
the same technologies but that does not change<br />
the fact that there is nothing illegal in using<br />
technology to break DRM to copy public domain<br />
works.</p>
<p>
Joseph Pietro Riolo<br />
&lt;riolo@voicenet.com&gt;</p>
<p>Public domain notice:  I put all of my expressions<br />
in this comment in the public domain.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://www.lessig.org/2004/06/this-is-the-constitution-on-dr/#comment-4695</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2004 05:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://lessig.org/blog/2004/06/this_is_the_constitution_on_dr.html#comment-4695</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Wow, what a Shock!  Lessig has given us another startling revelation about how Microsoft and the U.S. Government are trying to rob us.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Of course, you can also buy the following books, in print form from Amazon:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The Constitution and the Declaration of Independence: $4.95 &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1882577981/qid=1088147612/sr=8-1/ref=pd_ka_1/103-0232153-8071043?v=glance&amp;s=books&amp;n=507846&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1882577981/qid=1088147612/sr=8-1/ref=pd_ka_1/103-0232153-8071043?v=glance&amp;s=books&amp;n=507846&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1882577981/qid=1088147612/sr=8-1/ref=pd_ka_1/103-0232153-8071043?v=glance&amp;s=books&amp;n=507846&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The Anti-Federalist Papers: $7.95&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1882577981/qid=1088147612/sr=8-1/ref=pd_ka_1/103-0232153-8071043?v=glance&amp;s=books&amp;n=507846&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1882577981/qid=1088147612/sr=8-1/ref=pd_ka_1/103-0232153-8071043?v=glance&amp;s=books&amp;n=507846&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1882577981/qid=1088147612/sr=8-1/ref=pd_ka_1/103-0232153-8071043?v=glance&amp;s=books&amp;n=507846&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And one published by the U.S. Government also:&lt;br /&gt;
2003 Guide to Federal Grants and Government Assistance to Small Business - Catalog of Federal Domestic Assistance, Loans, Grants, Surplus Equipment, SBA, GSA, SEC Information for Entrepreneurs, Startup Kit, Loan Programs, Financing, Law, Regulations, Reports, Workbooks - Applying for Federal Assistance (CD-ROM)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1592480691/qid=1088147871/sr=1-6/ref=sr_1_6/103-0232153-8071043?v=glance&amp;s=books&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1592480691/qid=1088147871/sr=1-6/ref=sr_1_6/103-0232153-8071043?v=glance&amp;s=books&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1592480691/qid=1088147871/sr=1-6/ref=sr_1_6/103-0232153-8071043?v=glance&amp;s=books&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;What&#039;s his point?&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, what a Shock!  Lessig has given us another startling revelation about how Microsoft and the U.S. Government are trying to rob us.</p>
<p>Of course, you can also buy the following books, in print form from Amazon:</p>
<p>The Constitution and the Declaration of Independence: $4.95 <br />
<a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1882577981/qid=1088147612/sr=8-1/ref=pd_ka_1/103-0232153-8071043?v=glance&#038;s=books&#038;n=507846" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1882577981/qid=1088147612/sr=8-1/ref=pd_ka_1/103-0232153-8071043?v=glance&#038;s=books&#038;n=507846" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1882577981/qid=1088147612/sr=8-1/ref=pd_ka_1/103-0232153-8071043?v=glance&#038;s=books&#038;n=507846</a></p>
<p>The Anti-Federalist Papers: $7.95<br />
<a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1882577981/qid=1088147612/sr=8-1/ref=pd_ka_1/103-0232153-8071043?v=glance&#038;s=books&#038;n=507846" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1882577981/qid=1088147612/sr=8-1/ref=pd_ka_1/103-0232153-8071043?v=glance&#038;s=books&#038;n=507846" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1882577981/qid=1088147612/sr=8-1/ref=pd_ka_1/103-0232153-8071043?v=glance&#038;s=books&#038;n=507846</a></p>
<p>And one published by the U.S. Government also:<br />
2003 Guide to Federal Grants and Government Assistance to Small Business &#8211; Catalog of Federal Domestic Assistance, Loans, Grants, Surplus Equipment, SBA, GSA, SEC Information for Entrepreneurs, Startup Kit, Loan Programs, Financing, Law, Regulations, Reports, Workbooks &#8211; Applying for Federal Assistance (CD-ROM)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1592480691/qid=1088147871/sr=1-6/ref=sr_1_6/103-0232153-8071043?v=glance&#038;s=books" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1592480691/qid=1088147871/sr=1-6/ref=sr_1_6/103-0232153-8071043?v=glance&#038;s=books" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1592480691/qid=1088147871/sr=1-6/ref=sr_1_6/103-0232153-8071043?v=glance&#038;s=books</a></p>
<p>What&#8217;s his point?</p>
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		<title>By: Some Guy</title>
		<link>http://www.lessig.org/2004/06/this-is-the-constitution-on-dr/#comment-4694</link>
		<dc:creator>Some Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2004 03:46:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://lessig.org/blog/2004/06/this_is_the_constitution_on_dr.html#comment-4694</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Don&#039;t sweat the rankings; those are ebook rankings only (and, ahem, it ain&#039;t hard to shoot to the top, ebookwise)... like comparing your book sales to jewelry.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t sweat the rankings; those are ebook rankings only (and, ahem, it ain&#8217;t hard to shoot to the top, ebookwise)&#8230; like comparing your book sales to jewelry.</p>
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		<title>By: Seth Finkelstein</title>
		<link>http://www.lessig.org/2004/06/this-is-the-constitution-on-dr/#comment-4693</link>
		<dc:creator>Seth Finkelstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2004 01:58:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://lessig.org/blog/2004/06/this_is_the_constitution_on_dr.html#comment-4693</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Maybe &quot;hack the code&quot; meant 1201(b)(1)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Circumvention of control that &quot;protects a right&quot; (rather than *access*) is OK.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But to &quot;manufacture, import, offer to the public, provide, or otherwise traffic in any technology, product, service, device, component, or part thereof&quot; that &quot;protect a right&quot; is a violation, 1201(b)(1)&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe &#8220;hack the code&#8221; meant 1201(b)(1)</p>
<p>Circumvention of control that &#8220;protects a right&#8221; (rather than *access*) is OK.</p>
<p>But to &#8220;manufacture, import, offer to the public, provide, or otherwise traffic in any technology, product, service, device, component, or part thereof&#8221; that &#8220;protect a right&#8221; is a violation, 1201(b)(1)</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph Pietro Riolo</title>
		<link>http://www.lessig.org/2004/06/this-is-the-constitution-on-dr/#comment-4692</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph Pietro Riolo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2004 23:51:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://lessig.org/blog/2004/06/this_is_the_constitution_on_dr.html#comment-4692</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Responding to Nate&#039;s comment:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;When you have time, spend few minutes reading Chapter 12 in&lt;br /&gt;
the U.S. copyright law.  Note the phrase &quot;a work protected&lt;br /&gt;
under this title&quot; in Section 1201(a).  Because the public&lt;br /&gt;
domain works are not protected or no longer protected by&lt;br /&gt;
the U.S. copyright law, DMCA therefore does not apply to&lt;br /&gt;
them.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Question #1:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;There is no proprietary format although the creators&lt;br /&gt;
of formats will disagree with me.  All formats are&lt;br /&gt;
uncopyrightable as per Section 102(b) (&quot;any idea,&lt;br /&gt;
procedure, process, system, method of operation, concept,&lt;br /&gt;
principle, or discovery&quot;).  No matter what format a&lt;br /&gt;
a public domain work appears in, it is always public&lt;br /&gt;
domain.  There is nothing that can turn it into&lt;br /&gt;
a copyrighted work except by law.  There are some&lt;br /&gt;
formats that may be patented but that is a separate&lt;br /&gt;
topic.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Suppose an artist add ornaments to each letter in the&lt;br /&gt;
Constitution.  He/she has copyright only in the ornaments&lt;br /&gt;
but never in the letters in the Constitution.  One can&lt;br /&gt;
copy the letters but not the ornaments.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Question #2:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;That is a very difficult question to answer because&lt;br /&gt;
each technology can be used for both legal and illegal&lt;br /&gt;
purposes.  If a technology to break protection system&lt;br /&gt;
can be shown to be used in the legal way, it should be&lt;br /&gt;
okay.  But, most of the technologies to break protection&lt;br /&gt;
system are used for infringing activities.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;For additional insight from the U.S. Copyright Office,&lt;br /&gt;
take a look at pages 99 to 102 in:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.copyright.gov/1201/docs/registers-recommendation.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.copyright.gov/1201/docs/registers-recommendation.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.copyright.gov/1201/docs/registers-recommendation.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Joseph Pietro Riolo&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;riolo@voicenet.com&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Public domain notice:  I put all of my expressions&lt;br /&gt;
in this comment in the public domain.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Responding to Nate&#8217;s comment:</p>
<p>When you have time, spend few minutes reading Chapter 12 in<br />
the U.S. copyright law.  Note the phrase &#8220;a work protected<br />
under this title&#8221; in Section 1201(a).  Because the public<br />
domain works are not protected or no longer protected by<br />
the U.S. copyright law, DMCA therefore does not apply to<br />
them.</p>
<p>Question #1:</p>
<p>There is no proprietary format although the creators<br />
of formats will disagree with me.  All formats are<br />
uncopyrightable as per Section 102(b) (&#8220;any idea,<br />
procedure, process, system, method of operation, concept,<br />
principle, or discovery&#8221;).  No matter what format a<br />
a public domain work appears in, it is always public<br />
domain.  There is nothing that can turn it into<br />
a copyrighted work except by law.  There are some<br />
formats that may be patented but that is a separate<br />
topic.</p>
<p>Suppose an artist add ornaments to each letter in the<br />
Constitution.  He/she has copyright only in the ornaments<br />
but never in the letters in the Constitution.  One can<br />
copy the letters but not the ornaments.</p>
<p>Question #2:</p>
<p>That is a very difficult question to answer because<br />
each technology can be used for both legal and illegal<br />
purposes.  If a technology to break protection system<br />
can be shown to be used in the legal way, it should be<br />
okay.  But, most of the technologies to break protection<br />
system are used for infringing activities.</p>
<p>For additional insight from the U.S. Copyright Office,<br />
take a look at pages 99 to 102 in:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.copyright.gov/1201/docs/registers-recommendation.pdf" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.copyright.gov/1201/docs/registers-recommendation.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.copyright.gov/1201/docs/registers-recommendation.pdf</a></p>
<p>
Joseph Pietro Riolo<br />
&lt;riolo@voicenet.com&gt;</p>
<p>Public domain notice:  I put all of my expressions<br />
in this comment in the public domain.</p>
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		<title>By: nate</title>
		<link>http://www.lessig.org/2004/06/this-is-the-constitution-on-dr/#comment-4691</link>
		<dc:creator>nate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2004 22:59:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://lessig.org/blog/2004/06/this_is_the_constitution_on_dr.html#comment-4691</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;&gt; There is no law against breaking DRM to copy the public&lt;br /&gt;
&gt; domain work. However, if there are creative additions&lt;br /&gt;
&gt; to the electronic version that rise to copyrightable&lt;br /&gt;
&gt; level, the story is different.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Joseph,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Could you clarify this?  I&#039;m no expert on the DMCA, but your statement certainly runs counter to most of the coverage of the DMCA that I&#039;ve seen.   I&#039;m presuming that your point is that the DMCA makes illegal only the breaking of DRM used to control access to copyrighted works, and hence one can legally break DRM used to control access to a work in the public domain.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;1) Is your caveat ever false?  Wouldn&#039;t simply presenting a public domain work in a proprietary format make it a copyrightable work?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;2) If the maker of the DRM uses the same technology for the  public domain work (small sliver) as for the copyrighted work (vast majority), wouldn&#039;t the creation of a technology to break the DRM on the public domain work be prohibited because it &quot;has limited commercially significant purpose or use other than to circumvent&quot;?  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;(I haven&#039;t actually read the act, only the summary:  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.loc.gov/copyright/legislation/dmca.pdf)&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.loc.gov/copyright/legislation/dmca.pdf)&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.loc.gov/copyright/legislation/dmca.pdf)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>> There is no law against breaking DRM to copy the public<br />
> domain work. However, if there are creative additions<br />
> to the electronic version that rise to copyrightable<br />
> level, the story is different.</p>
<p>Joseph,</p>
<p>Could you clarify this?  I&#8217;m no expert on the DMCA, but your statement certainly runs counter to most of the coverage of the DMCA that I&#8217;ve seen.   I&#8217;m presuming that your point is that the DMCA makes illegal only the breaking of DRM used to control access to copyrighted works, and hence one can legally break DRM used to control access to a work in the public domain.</p>
<p>1) Is your caveat ever false?  Wouldn&#8217;t simply presenting a public domain work in a proprietary format make it a copyrightable work?</p>
<p>2) If the maker of the DRM uses the same technology for the  public domain work (small sliver) as for the copyrighted work (vast majority), wouldn&#8217;t the creation of a technology to break the DRM on the public domain work be prohibited because it &#8220;has limited commercially significant purpose or use other than to circumvent&#8221;?  </p>
<p>(I haven&#8217;t actually read the act, only the summary:  <a href="http://www.loc.gov/copyright/legislation/dmca.pdf)" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.loc.gov/copyright/legislation/dmca.pdf)" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.loc.gov/copyright/legislation/dmca.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.loc.gov/copyright/legislation/dmca.pdf</a>)</p>
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		<title>By: Boo_hiss</title>
		<link>http://www.lessig.org/2004/06/this-is-the-constitution-on-dr/#comment-4690</link>
		<dc:creator>Boo_hiss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2004 21:10:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Joseph is right.  I find it astounding that for all his ranting about the DMCA Lessig either hasn&#039;t read it or doesn&#039;t understand it.  Read the fist sentence of the act.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joseph is right.  I find it astounding that for all his ranting about the DMCA Lessig either hasn&#8217;t read it or doesn&#8217;t understand it.  Read the fist sentence of the act.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.lessig.org/2004/06/this-is-the-constitution-on-dr/#comment-4689</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2004 20:14:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Joseph Pietro Riolo</title>
		<link>http://www.lessig.org/2004/06/this-is-the-constitution-on-dr/#comment-4688</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph Pietro Riolo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2004 19:56:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;There is no law against breaking DRM to copy the public&lt;br /&gt;
domain work.  However, if there are creative additions&lt;br /&gt;
to the electronic version that rise to copyrightable&lt;br /&gt;
level, the story is different.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Joseph Pietro Riolo&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;riolo@voicenet.com&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Public domain notice:  I put all of my expressions&lt;br /&gt;
in this comment in the public domain.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no law against breaking DRM to copy the public<br />
domain work.  However, if there are creative additions<br />
to the electronic version that rise to copyrightable<br />
level, the story is different.</p>
<p>Joseph Pietro Riolo<br />
&lt;riolo@voicenet.com&gt;</p>
<p>Public domain notice:  I put all of my expressions<br />
in this comment in the public domain.</p>
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