• bob weidner

    I’ve been waiting and waiting and waiting for someone…anyone to put this administration in its place. This country has gone totally backwards….people in the administration that I thought I had heard the last of long ago…policies that make us look stupid…a leader who can’t even put one complete sentence together and men behind him who are the scariest since the Nixon period.

    Go Howard Dean. You will get my vote and a donation soon!

  • http://baylink.pitas.com Jay R. Ashworth

    Ghod… there links to here; here links to there; I feel like I’m watching Wimbledon. :-)

    Replies from the Doc, guys; in the comments…

    “It’s the Conversation, stupid.”
    – j

  • http://www.deanforamerica.com Joe Trippi

    Jay — the fact is that Governor Dean is keeping a near 18 hour a day schedule — today he was on a plane for 4 hours from Dallas to Miami — then out of the car and into the NAACP debate — and off again to the next event. To be honest we were all freaking out up at Burlington HQ that he wasn’t going to be able to make a post to the Lessig Blog today — something like I said we were freaking about. We know its about the conversation — and that is what we have been trying to do — but we will be lucky to have time for a post or two a day this week. We are doing things, and the Governor has been willing to do things that no other serious candidate has been willing to do — we do not deserve credit for that. What I have learned everytime we try something new like this — is that we never quite get it right no matter how hard we try. All we ask is that people recognize that fact and that each time we get closer to the conversation we are really trying to have.

    Joe Trippi
    campaign manager
    Dean for America

  • http://deanstherealdeal.blogspot.com Lisa Pease

    I’ve worked on a presidential campaign before (1992) and you just cannot IMAGINE the volumes of letters, e-mail (yes, even then), and people dropping in who want a personal connection with the candidate. I’ve learned it isn’t all about the candidate. It’s about this – how a candidate can inspire people who have never met to talk and converse about things that really matter in this country. Although I heard Lessig speak once, and found him provocative and wonderfully articulate, I hadn’t really given IP issues a second thought until I heard Dean would be posting here. So now I’m interested again, and that’s the power of this campaign. So talk, converse, ask questions and suggest answers. Just don’t expect a personal back and forth with a candidate who has such an enormous task at hand, with many people needing to be touched one way or another all day long.

    Jay – what’s your top issue or concern? What’s your top recommendation re that issue? I sure want to hear it. Thanks!

  • Janelle in NM

    Hooray for Joe Trippi’s comments! Conversation or no conversation with Howard Dean, this is amazing. I really can’t understand the criticism. This is WAY more than anyone else has tried to do, give the guy a break. Geez! Are you on his side or what?

  • http://baylink.pitas.com Jay R. Ashworth

    I understand, Joe.

    “Stupid” is rhetoric. As I had to point out to the members of my own local steering committee last week: Politics (even the politics of *getting* someone elected) is the art of finding a way to get along with others so you don’t have to kill them. :-)

    The biggest issue that this campaign will have to deal with, IMHO, is that *precisely because* of it’s grass-roots-ness, there is likely to be more friction between the people on the ground than is sometimes the case… and we’ll all have to consciously try to assume the best of the other guy, even if it sounds like he doesn’t merit it, just then.

    It ain’t easy stuff… but we’ll do it. It’s all about keeping your eyes on the prize.

    You’re working on it.

    We noticed.

    – jra

  • http://www.deanforamerica.com/site/TR?pg=personal&fr_id=1090&px=1248112 Chris G

    I’m really pleased to watch Gov. Dean branch out to new and exciting constituencies who are eager to engage him in a conversation. I understand a bit about the hectic schedule the Governor must be living, having worked for a US Senator whose day was scheduled out in five minute blocks — when she wasn’t campaigning.

    I urge people who like what they hear to consider exercising one of their strongest political voices and opening their wallets as a show of support. Dean is proving time and again — on Iraq, and on media monopolies — that he is willing to speak the truth. Donate a Dollar for the TRUTH.

  • Serpico

    Congratulations to the Dean capaign for their takeover another blog! Perhaps with a little more work you guys can mau mau Lessig into dropping John Edwards and supporting Dean…

  • http://www.deanforamerica.com Joe Trippi

    Jay — I spent some time as an advisor to Progeny Linux Systems (the Debian flavored Linux) — the time spent there really influenced my thinking about an open source campaign.

    I mean the political system today is exactly the same thing — a small group trying to keep control of a system they designed and that they hold the keys to — and an open source campaign is one that conducts open converstions, open collabortation — and in the end the contributions of many individuals in terms of time or resources when marshalled together will have the power to take government by the people back. Its the whole thinking behind a new politics of meaning — because without the people getting involved again politics has no meaning. I don’t know maybe I am rambling — but it is how we are trying to do this — maybe its a strecth but the fact is it was the time spent in Linux related endeavors that has shaped my thinking.

    Joe Trippi
    campaign manager
    Dean for America

  • Phoenix Woman

    Joe –


    I’ve been telling everyone I can grab that the Dean campaign is the first open-source Presidential campaign.

    The keys to making open-source anything work are 1) trust and 2) zillions of eyeballs. The other campaigns don’t trust their grunt workers — the Dean campaign invites them up to the microphone. Yeah, there will be the odd disruptor trying to sabotage things, but he/she is typically so clumsy that he/she gets spotted and tossed immediately.

    Dean = Linux.
    Kerry = Apple.
    Bush = Microsoft.

    What more can I say?

  • http://baylink.pitas.com Jay R. Ashworth

    See, Joe? I told you you got it. :-)

    Lisa: you mean, *besides* wanting to see the Doc and staff’s highschool and college *history* transcripts? Electronic Voting. And I’m pretty sure I’ve flogged that topic to death in-line.

    Once we get a position paper on that, I’ll go pick on something else. :-)

    Some semi-official venue for exactly *this* sort of thing, actually. An online focus group? Probably too elitist for Solaria, but I’m sure the staff can already pick out the top 20 regulars they wanna hear from more often…

    Oh, and I wanna know what he’s going to do about the Warren Commission. ;-)
    – j

  • http://hey-joe.blogspot.com Jumbo

    Hey Joe-

    Open Source Presidential campaign! I love it. If that doesn’t qualify you for the title of post-modern super-genius I don’t know what it’s going to take. Is the Governor going to be guest blogging elsewhere? Kos perhaps? Hey Joe, teach Howard how to make links…


  • Mr Five-Years-At-Berkeley

    That was just like blogging, except that instead of a blog entry, we got a press release instead — cutting edge work by Professor Lessig and Governor Dean!


  • http://sethf.com/ Seth Finkelstein

    Joe, while kudos is due to you for your efforts, my discontent is more with the
    blog-hype. There’s nothing wrong with Howard Dean doing a guest appearance. That’s nice. But on the other hand, I just can’t work up much fervor over it. It’s along the lines of “Howard Dean was willing to speak to our community group of a few hundred people.” Great. I find out more about him, he finds out more about the community, another day on the campaign trail, perhaps a good one. But really, nothing which is going to make me think he’s something entirely new in politics. Again, it’s good, in the way a local appearance is good. But nothing more.

  • Jake

    I haven’t seen much from Dean campaign regarding the evolving “It was only 16 words, get over it already.” scandal. I think inserting that the inclusion of this particular sentance in the State of the Union Address, (SOTU), demonstrates indictable crimes were committed by the gang at the White House. I also think that a Special Proscecutor needs to be appointed because Ashcroft will never do anything about it.

    George Tenent’s non-apology made a few things clear:

    1. The CIA tried to get the infamous 16 words out of the State of the Union Address, but;

    2. Un-named others insisted that it be inserted;

    3. The 16 words were known to be, uhm, dubious by the CIA; and,

    4. By golly, George was really, really, really sorry that he didn’t argue hard enough to have this obvious tripe removed.

    That said, one thing that hasn’t been touched on here is how Tenent’s statement leaves Bush & Co. open to criminal proscecution.

    Bush presenting dubious/fictious information to Congress in the SOTU was a felony. Go to: U.S. Code Search and look up 18 USC Sec. 1001. It says, in part, and with emphasis added:

    (a) Except as otherwise provided in this section, whoever, in any matter within the jurisdiction of the executive, legislative, or judicial branch of the Government of the United States, knowingly and willfully

    (1) falsifies, conceals, or covers up by any trick, scheme, or device a material fact;

    (2) makes ANY materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent statement or representation; or

    (3) makes or uses ANY false writing or document knowing the same to contain ANY materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent statement or entry; shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both.

    (deleted material)

    (c) With respect to any matter within the jurisdiction of the legislative branch, subsection (a) shall apply only to –

    (1) administrative matters, including a claim for payment, a matter related to the procurement of property or services, personnel or employment practices, or support services, or a document required by law, rule, or regulation to be submitted to the Congress or any office or officer within the legislative branch; . . .

    The Constitution mandates the President deliver a State of the Union Address, “from time to time.” The President may, at his choosing, deliver the information orally, but he must deliver it to Congress in writing as well. Ergo, the SOTU is “a document required by law, rule, or regulation to be submitted to the Congress.” as defined in paragraph 18 USC Sec. 1001 (c)1. Therefore, Bush’s lies in the SOTU are felony violations of 18 USC Sec. 1001.

    Tenant’s statement implies there was a group of un-named others who worked tirelessly to include such, uhm, fictitious, information in the SOTO in violation of 18 USC Sec. 1001. Which, of course, is a violation of 18 USC Sec. 371 Conspiracy to commit offense or to defraud United States. And the fact that Tenant knew this, or suspected it, concealed it, and did “not as soon as possible make known the same to some judge or other person in civil or military authority under the United States.” leaves him and his un-named co-conspirators liable for prosecution for misprision of felony, 18 USC Sec. 4.


  • http://www.blogforamerica.com Joe Trippi

    Seth — I agree with what you say completely — but then when was that last time a serious Presidential candidate stopped by to visit this community?

    All I am saying is that we are trying to be a new force in our country’s politics — an open campaign, collaborative, and powered by small contributions of millions of Americans.

    Washington knows the power of only one thing now — money.

    You are not going to change much in Washington on the issues you care about — until you own the place again.

    If a couple of million Americans contributed $100 to a campaign they believed was different — it would be different — and the difference would be that the people would own their government again.

    Its not a radical idea — its the truth — the barrier is the cynisim that stops people from believing its possible.

    And stopping by this community isn’t going to break down that barrier — but we have to start somewhere. And if not on Lessig’s blog…where?

    Joe Trippi
    campaign manager
    Dean for America

  • http://sethf.com/ Seth Finkelstein


    Joe, I started writing this post before reading your reply, but your reply has made me even more in favor of the idea.

    Instead of any ghost-writing of Dean’s material (“if there’s a day I can’t make
    it, Joe Trippi, my campaign manager, will fill in for me”), why not skip the boring rehashed position papers, and write more about something which is indeed interesting and innovative, in a political-science sense. That is, your use of the Internet as a campaign tool.

    I’m finding your comments about your thinking about improving organizing for campaigns, by effective use of interconnections, to be vastly more interesting and meaty than anything up in the official blathering.

    Who cares about another missive regarding “My position on the Fredonia situations is …”?

    We’re getting the marketing material from the Dean campaign now. You’re giving us the source code which runs the “product”, and that’s much more Lessig-ish in terms of social and architectural implications of “code”.

  • Eric

    Although concerns about much of the legislation in the works does hinder much of the freedoms we have learned to appreciate over the years, the case remains that much of the laws and legislation recently have been intended to overcome weakness involving different times.

    For example, the idea of one company owning papers, telecommunications, etc may seem to hinder some of the freedoms, but there is also a business aspect to consider. If you have information published in a newspaper, the audience is limited to the area that it is distributed to. If you expand you ownership to include telecommunications as well, then you are able to pass these same views via other larger audience. The concern of one company owning a majority was relevant when only 3-5 stations existed, but with well over 200 channels available at the moment, each channel is lucky to gain enough of an audience to make it worth staying in business. To overcome the diversity in content and the likely small revenue for a lesser channel, it is beneficial for a large station to subsidize the lesser channels so that this same content can continue to be.

    That being said and although I don’t know the current state of it, I believe that already legislation is in the works to over come some of the changes recently made by the FCC.

    On the matter of the Dixie Chicks…I have no idea what in the world you are talking about in this situation with the Dixie Chicks….they made a statement which was partly done to gain the trust of an unfriendly audience in light of the current atmosphere, partly to express here freedom of speech, and partly to express her concern about the situation as it were. I accept here rights to express as she did, however she also had to think of the outcome.

    Country music listeners, in general, tend to be a more conservative bunch with similar beliefs. In general, this audience is more likely to not be in support of the views expressed by the Dixie Chicks. From this perspective, the audience (not the radio stations) would be more likely to not buy Dixie Chicks products, would call in to ask that Dixie Chicks not be played, etc. The music business (as well as it�s over pricing of CDs to make as much money as they can) had to adapt to the audiences concerns, which included taking them off the air for a time. Clear Case for all its movement away from live content, also is concerned about what the audience wants.

    I am not a student or aquaintance of Professor Lessig and have not made my choice on future candidates in the presidencial arena. All this being said, although I find it useful to express ideas and express your platform, I find a “Guest Post” hosted at an educational institute in place of a staff member of the same educational institute to be quite unethical if only one perspective is expressed.

    By this I mean, educational institutes are suppose to be an independent impartial place where ideas are expressed and students are allows to make their own decisions, not a place to promote one sided thinking (liberal or conservative). This in general, I think is somewhat of a flaw in educational institutes that tend to promote a bias agenda in general.

    Realizing that this is law school where politics is a major topic, I would hope that to avoid giving the impression of a biased view, that you would allow other “Guest Posts” be allowed as well to express alternative views.

    With regards to the presidents current situation regarding the false statements in the state of the union address. I believe that with all the areas that the president has to be privledge too, that it is unrealistic that one person could be expected to be an expert and aware of their authencitiy at all times. This falls to their staff and agencies under his control. I regret to say, that most likely it was a flaw made by someone under the president which may have partically pushed us into a war with men losing their lives each day. Because of this I agree that someone is accountable for these statements, however that statement alone was not the only statement in the case for it. Not only were the 17 UN mandates which Iraq was not in complance, but past indiscresions (such as chemical attacks on Iraqis) were not accounted for.

    All these statements being made, I am thankful for giving me a change to express my views here as well.

    I wish you well on your campaign.

  • http://www.billy-o-rights.us Ellen Theisen


    Thank you for the legal documentation. While it seems obvious that including misleading information in a SOTU, especially when it was used to justify war, is an impeachable offense, I didn’t have the legal references that prove it is.

    But I have a concern: if Bush were impeached, Cheney would be president. Right? This is not a reason to bypass justice, but a concern nevertheless.

  • http://www.blogforamerica.com Joe Trippi

    Seth — Thanks for the nomination — we can do both– the Governor’s time to blog is limited due to his schedule (something we have to think harder about for the next time we do something like this). He will post what he can each day — and I will do my best to in comments from time to time to explain some of our thinking and the “code”.

    We are at a moment in our politics where the “code” is the people — it is time for people to participate in their self-government again — put their own self interests aside and join together for the common good.

    Television took people out of the political process — it made campaigns about nothing more than big money to pay for TV spots. The Internet and the grassroots — are powerful enough now to put back what television took out — the people.

    Joe Trippi
    campaign manager
    Dean for America

  • http://www.billy-o-rights.us Ellen Theisen

    Questions about who put the 16 words in the speech have finally been answered by Bush himself.

    See http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A56336-2003Jul14.html?nav=hptop_tb

    He said: “Subsequent to the speech, the CIA had some doubts. But when they talked about the speech and when they looked at the speech, it was cleared. Otherwise, I wouldn’t have put it in the speech.” [emphasis mine]
    Rep. Abercrombie, last night on CSPAN, brought up a very good point. Who originated the Niger uranium document? Why was it originated? I’m wondering, too, why has its origin not been investigated?

  • http://ep-rants.blogspot.com/ Eric Predoehl (not Predoehli)

    As a Mac user, I’m saddened by Phoenix Woman’s analogy of comparing John Kerry’s campaign to Apple Computers, but I love the idea of calling the Howard Dean campaign an “open source” presidential campaign! Absolutely brilliant! And Joe Trippi was an advisor with Progeny Linux Systems? What a hoot!

    Howard Dean has proven once again that he “gets it.” He understands the nature of infastructures that most Americans don’t even think about.

    The exchange of ideas in an intelligent forum is intoxicating! I can’t wait to see Dean debate Bush next year, right after he wins the primaries! To quote another, “bring them on!”

  • Baldwin

    Ellen Theisen makes a good point on impeachment — who would want Cheney as Prez? — and that’s why I tell everyone I can that what is appropriate is censure. That was MoveOn’s position in 1998 (censure Clinton, and move on). Clearly, Bush’s deception is an offense worthy of censure.

  • Clay

    Dr. Dean and Staff,

    I am curious about your position on medical tort reform. I know groups like the AMA are trying to work for their members by supporting a cap on non-economic damages resulting from malpractice. While I agree that physicians should be protected from frivolous lawsuits, I also believe the decision of what is and is not frivolous should be left to a judge and jury. I am also concerned that such a cap will have a long term negative effect in terms of quality of care. If there is a limited economic consequence to a health care provider for mistakes what level of incentive is there to fix them?

    I think it is better to correct mistakes before they happen. Many studies have shown that medical mistakes are made due to fatigue. Airline pilots are restricted to flying a certain number of hours in order to keep them from making mistakes. Doctors have no such restrictions. Should they?

    Best of luck and keep up the good work.

  • http://www.slumdance.com/blogs/brian_flemming/ Brian Flemming

    Nice picture, but you are also free to use this one if you’d like.

  • Lucian

    ‘And stopping by this community isn�t going to break down that barrier � but we have to start somewhere. And if not on Lessig�s blog�where?”

    Joe Trippi, I’ll give you a list of sites where you can talk to the people.

    Here are a few links. This site was a very good start though.


    Not all of these sites are tech sites, each one however has a loyal audience of over 100,000 viewers. Slashdot being the oldest and biggest, I suggest Dean conduct a Slashdot interview, and even respond to a few comments on the forum.

    Kuro5hin would also be a place where he can make a few comments, techTV would be a good place to go on TV and do a live interview.

    Zeropaid is interested in the whole P2P debate, there is over 40 million P2P users alone in the USA and if someone were to actually listen to their concerns it would mean alot. Zeropaid is the main P2P community.

    Collegeclub is a community filled with college students, a good place to ask questions and get answers, also a place to see what the youth in this country are thinking about. Alot of young people don’t vote, but if Dean were to connect with the youth in this country, and perhaps address some of their concerns he’d get votes. College is expensive, its not getting cheaper and alot of students would like Deans opinions on how he will improve the education system.

    Dean is doing a very good job, better than any politician since Clinton when it comes to connecting to the people. This is what Gore lacked, Bush also lacked this, if Dean can connect with the people, he will get their votes and not just their votes but he will win their loyalty and support. People will believe in him and donate time and money.

  • Lucian

    By the way I forgot to give the URL to Zeropaid.

    Its http://www.zeropaid.com,

    http://eff.org/ is a good site to do research on the issues that bother people. The main thing that bothers people is the unfair DMCA law. There are others however, so Joe if you plan to do this, conduct alot of research on the issues, there are plenty of papers and if I can help you out further just let me know.

  • Lucian

    “The Internet and the grassroots � are powerful enough now to put back what television took out � the people.”

    Joe I honestly hope you mean that. Please do your best to keep the balance of the internet. Currently media companies are doing their best to control the internet and make it into a tv like device.

  • Jake


    Simple, go after Cheney first. Indict him for felony conspiracy. Odds are he’d resign, hey, Spiro Agnew resigned when he was indicted for tax evasion. It could happen. Once Cheney’s gone, indict Bush for both lying to Congress and conspiracy, arrest him, try him and convict him. Then impeach. I believe that having a felony conviction bars you from holding the office of president. Ergo, impeachment and removal from office are mandatory.

  • http://baylink.pitas.com Jay R. Ashworth

    Since I know you’re listening over here, Joe (:-) I’ll second some of the opinion on the campaign blog about how the Doc’s postings over here are going over.

    It is, IMHO, precisely the edge cases of how you handle interaction with the grassroots that will define the campaign. Yes, it is *exceedingly* difficult and time consuming to be at the pointy end of this many spears. I haven’t been there on the presidential campaign level, obviously, but I’ve had some pretty big spears pointed at me.

    But if you’re going to talk the direct-involvement talk, you have to walk the walk. Everyone knows the Gov hasn’t got the time to answer every individual question, and any specific person who complains that their specific hobby horse isn’t being ridden hasn’t got much of a leg to stand on — as long as *some* specific questions are getting answered.

    Even I, even with Dean, expect that *which* questions will get answered will be a cherry-pick, for the things you’ve got answers figured out for yet, but I have to agree with the posting that Christopher crossed at blogfor: this is not the territory for drive-by blogging.

    And yes, I really *do* think that, having decided to do this, you need to re-prioritize it right near the top of the pile. It sets a very bad precedent otherwise. Perhaps some additional forethought would have been good before diving in this particular lake. But you’re in here now.

    And turning on a dime to deal with the important stuff is what a President *does*… the horizontal skills are just as important as the vertical ones.

    – jra

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